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5:34pm Friday 16th May 2008
A community has voiced concerns over access to an Oxford Scout Hut that was given more than £100,000 in public money for improvements.
The 10th Oxford Scout group was given £120,000 in April last year to make improvements to its hut on the corner of Marston Road and William Street.
At the time an agreement was reached between the Scouts and the New Marston South Residents' Association to allow community use of the building.
But Croft Road resident Mick Haines claimed the money had been wasted as members of the community had not been able to access the centre.
Mr Haines said: "The money for the development of that Scout Hut came from the money given to the area by Magdalen College when it sold off land for the Islamic Centre in Marston Road.
"The money was intended to replace amenities lost by that development, but I feel it has been spent in the wrong area, as no-one in the community is benefiting from it.
"People have been wondering when they will be able to take advantage of the site, but no one seems to know what's going on.
"I feel the money could have been better spent putting lights into the Street Sports site in Croft Road Park or improving the lighting on the cycle path in the park."
Marston Road resident Nicola Bowers, 32, said: "A few of us have wondered about the site as we think it will be great for the community to use."
It was always agreed the Scouts would have priority use of the site when the funding was agreed.
New Marston South Residents' Association chairman Roy Darke admitted it had taken time to get community access to the site organised.
He said: "We have now set up a company, the New Marston Scout Hall Management Company, which will be holding its first meeting next week.
"Getting charitable status and community status takes time and our vision is that we will eventually set up a community association to manage the access.
"There are already things like tai chi classes and pre-school groups using the hall.
"I also think Mick Haines has a political axe to grind on this matter, as he wanted the money spent in Croft Road."
Mr Darke said there would soon be a notice board outside the hall with information on community events and booking.
Unhappy Leader, Marston says...
8:02pm Sat 17 May 08
anon, oxfordshire says...
12:23pm Sun 18 May 08
Unhappy Leader wrote:i agree with you, when i was younger there was always things going on at the scout hut and they was fun!!
Very disappointed by this article. The Scouts side has not been heard at all. The hall has been available to the local community for years and people have done this (parties, etc). Perhaps if some of these residents who are supposedly unhappy actually attended some of the events held at the hall (such as the coffee mornings and Christmas sales), they would realise that it is open for bookings and has been for a long time. We regularly welcome the community in and take many bookings through our website www.thetenth.org. There has also been an open day when the local community were invited to view the Scout Hall. This article is making the Scout Group appear to be thieves by saying we are taking the money and not giving anything back. Absolute rubbish! Perhaps the community doesn\'t care about the Scouts and just want it as a Community Hall all to themselves. If this becomes the case, you might as well say goodbye to the Scout Group as well as the Gang Show, supported by Oxford Mail, who use the hall for a great deal of the year for their rehearsals. Perhaps the people who go to the papers about things like this need to think about the full affects an article can have on people before they do it!
Unhappy Leader, Marston says...
10:37pm Sun 18 May 08
anon wrote:Thank you. About time there was more support and thought for the volunteers.
Unhappy Leader wrote: Very disappointed by this article. The Scouts side has not been heard at all. The hall has been available to the local community for years and people have done this (parties, etc). Perhaps if some of these residents who are supposedly unhappy actually attended some of the events held at the hall (such as the coffee mornings and Christmas sales), they would realise that it is open for bookings and has been for a long time. We regularly welcome the community in and take many bookings through our website www.thetenth.org. There has also been an open day when the local community were invited to view the Scout Hall. This article is making the Scout Group appear to be thieves by saying we are taking the money and not giving anything back. Absolute rubbish! Perhaps the community doesn\'t care about the Scouts and just want it as a Community Hall all to themselves. If this becomes the case, you might as well say goodbye to the Scout Group as well as the Gang Show, supported by Oxford Mail, who use the hall for a great deal of the year for their rehearsals. Perhaps the people who go to the papers about things like this need to think about the full affects an article can have on people before they do it!i agree with you, when i was younger there was always things going on at the scout hut and they was fun!!
anon, oxfordshire says...
11:07pm Sun 18 May 08
Unhappy Leader wrote:yes i have been there before when i was younger, and i had a great time, i was made very welcome and so was everyone else, i'd rather see money go into the scout hut than seein it go to waste in croft road
anon wrote:Thank you. About time there was more support and thought for the volunteers. Obviously, you've put Anon, but if you've ever attended the hall at any point in life, you'll know the Scout Group give a warm welcome. Scout Groups are made up from members of the local community both young and old. Indeed, we have people aged from six through to 50+ at the moment, and a membership of 70+. The hall, as I said before, welcomes bookings. We always have, and if that's not enough, what are we to do? Perhaps a few of the residents who complain would prefer to do the training and become Leaders. In fact, why not become a Leader of every Secton. That way, they could be at the hall nearly every night of the week, and they would finally be doing something worthwhile!Unhappy Leader wrote: Very disappointed by this article. The Scouts side has not been heard at all. The hall has been available to the local community for years and people have done this (parties, etc). Perhaps if some of these residents who are supposedly unhappy actually attended some of the events held at the hall (such as the coffee mornings and Christmas sales), they would realise that it is open for bookings and has been for a long time. We regularly welcome the community in and take many bookings through our website www.thetenth.org. There has also been an open day when the local community were invited to view the Scout Hall. This article is making the Scout Group appear to be thieves by saying we are taking the money and not giving anything back. Absolute rubbish! Perhaps the community doesn\'t care about the Scouts and just want it as a Community Hall all to themselves. If this becomes the case, you might as well say goodbye to the Scout Group as well as the Gang Show, supported by Oxford Mail, who use the hall for a great deal of the year for their rehearsals. Perhaps the people who go to the papers about things like this need to think about the full affects an article can have on people before they do it!i agree with you, when i was younger there was always things going on at the scout hut and they was fun!!
Adrian Edwards, says...
11:38pm Sun 18 May 08
Unhappy Leader, Marston says...
6:19pm Mon 19 May 08
Pinky, Oxford says...
8:30pm Mon 19 May 08
anon, oxfordshire says...
11:23pm Mon 19 May 08
Roy Darke, MArston says...
10:33am Tue 20 May 08
anon, oxfordshire says...
1:35pm Tue 20 May 08
Roy Darke wrote:thats because all he wants the money for is croft road where all the drugs and out raged yobs are!!!!
I am already quoted in the article so have had my say but it is worth adding that If Mr Haines learnt that there is more to living in a community than protest and petition he would be more effective. Action and doing something more than undertaking paper exercises (even his petitions are borrowed without permission from others) is what communities are all about. A leaflet was put around ALL houses in New Marston in September last year asking for volunteers to help get the community use of Scout Hall up an running. Mr Haine sand his cronies replied by turnning at the OPen Evening we held to grumble about the money spent on the Hall instead of coming up with anyting positive or sensible about its use. We have a got a great new place for community use in New Marston. Perhaps Mr Haines should put his mind to how to help people here rather than run everything down that he does not like because he did not think of it.
anon, oxfordshire says...
1:36pm Tue 20 May 08
Roy Darke wrote:he only wasnt the money for croft road where all the drugs and out raged yobs are !!!!
I am already quoted in the article so have had my say but it is worth adding that If Mr Haines learnt that there is more to living in a community than protest and petition he would be more effective. Action and doing something more than undertaking paper exercises (even his petitions are borrowed without permission from others) is what communities are all about. A leaflet was put around ALL houses in New Marston in September last year asking for volunteers to help get the community use of Scout Hall up an running. Mr Haine sand his cronies replied by turnning at the OPen Evening we held to grumble about the money spent on the Hall instead of coming up with anyting positive or sensible about its use. We have a got a great new place for community use in New Marston. Perhaps Mr Haines should put his mind to how to help people here rather than run everything down that he does not like because he did not think of it.
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anon, Oxfordshire says...
4:37pm Sat 17 May 08