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Mosque prayer plans to be reviewed
6:00am Friday 15th February 2008
By Fran Bardsley »
Senior officials at Oxford Central Mosque are going back to the drawing board over plans to broadcast a call to prayer from its minaret.
A new management committee has been elected at the mosque, in Manzil Way, off Cowley Road, and has moved to reassure worried neighbours.
Secretary general Altaf Hussain said: "This was a decision made on emotions, rather than facts and realities on the ground and without proper consultation with our neighbours and the whole of our neighbourhood. It has caused anxiety and misunderstandings.
"The issue of using loudspeakers is being reviewed and we would like to make it very clear a proper consultation will be held and only after that any final decision will be made."
The call to prayer is performed five times a day within the mosque.
The mosque already has a short-wave radio transmitter to send out the call to prayer direct into the homes of worshippers - about 100 members of the mosque have bought the receivers to hear the two-minute "adhan".
Mr Hussain said: "There is no limit to the amount of time the consultation may take, because there is no rush and at the moment there is no need also.
"But we will be getting in touch with our neighbourhood to give them a chance to air their views.
"Those who hold views against the matter will be respected."
The Rev Adam Romanis, vicar of SS Mary and John Church, in Cowley Road, the nearest church to the mosque, said he believed the issue had been blown out of proportion.
He said local people were not "getting excited about it" - those who had raised objections were mostly from outside East Oxford.
He described the mosque as the church's neighbour and said: "I rather like the idea of a dialogue across the Cowley Road, between our tower and the minaret, but I don't live in Divinity Road or Stanley Road.
"I like that idea of each of us, on either side of the Cowley Road, each standing for what we stand for, which in many ways is the same thing, and in others which is different and distinct.
"I have got a lot of sympathy with the idea, although I think there are questions that need to be thought about carefully before it went ahead."
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God, Indoctrinated into your mind from an early age says...
9:49am Fri 15 Feb 08
I don't exist, so people please find something else to occupy your time. Oh, and there's no Devil and no Heaven or Hell either, and when you die it all goes black for you and you feel nothing more and you might be buried and become food for worms. I'm just an abstract concept and definitely not worth making others inconvenienced, or suffering, or dying for.
cottage2day, cowley, oxford says...
9:55am Fri 15 Feb 08
This should not be allowed. I do not want to be woken up at 5am every morning by a prayer belowing out of speakers. They have managed fine so far, why do they have to make everyone else listen to it.
Andy, says...
10:23am Fri 15 Feb 08
The Rev Romanis is talking out of his backside. How does he know the only people moaning are from outside east Oxford????? THis is crap, many people that live close by the Mosque have complained. I would suggest that the Rev actually asks the residents close by, instead of bowing down to the Muslims again.
alan page, says...
10:47am Fri 15 Feb 08
God wrote:That may or may not be true, but a sense of the transcendent is an innate part of the human psyche and religion caters for that.
I don't exist, so people please find something else to occupy your time. Oh, and there's no Devil and no Heaven or Hell either, and when you die it all goes black for you and you feel nothing more and you might be buried and become food for worms. I'm just an abstract concept and definitely not worth making others inconvenienced, or suffering, or dying for.
I suppose those who's minds are more concerened with trivial matters like profit generation etc. will find such an outlook absurd but then they have probably never lain on their backs in a field at night and watched the stars.
Philip, oxford says...
12:19pm Fri 15 Feb 08
Did "Andy" actually bother reading the article properly. If he had he might have read Revd. Romanis saying that he thought it was o.k. but "he did not live in Divinity Road or Stanley Road" - in other words he recognised that if you lived right next to the mosque you might not think it was such a wonderful idea.
It's difficult not to agree with Revd. Romanis that the issue has been blown out of all proportion. Yes, there is an issue; not everyone wants to hear loudspeakers broadcasting the call to prayer, just as they don't necessarily want to hear church bells, Love Oxford's gospel songs, or any other loud expression of faith. However, in general people get on and reach work workable compromises over such things. In this case, there seem to have been people who were very keen to stir things up by presenting this as the beginning of the end for our civilisation. Full marks to the new Mosque committee for deciding that good neighbourliness is the key here, and what a pity that some others cannot be so reasonable.
It's difficult not to agree with Revd. Romanis that the issue has been blown out of all proportion. Yes, there is an issue; not everyone wants to hear loudspeakers broadcasting the call to prayer, just as they don't necessarily want to hear church bells, Love Oxford's gospel songs, or any other loud expression of faith. However, in general people get on and reach work workable compromises over such things. In this case, there seem to have been people who were very keen to stir things up by presenting this as the beginning of the end for our civilisation. Full marks to the new Mosque committee for deciding that good neighbourliness is the key here, and what a pity that some others cannot be so reasonable.
Tarbatt, says...
1:14pm Fri 15 Feb 08
The Rev. Romanis is a typical gutless Church of England nobody. It is little wonder that many Christians in this country look away from the Church of England for spiritual leadership.
But all credit to Altaf Hussain, who recognises the anxiety the proposal for a loudspeaker call to prayer has caused.
But all credit to Altaf Hussain, who recognises the anxiety the proposal for a loudspeaker call to prayer has caused.
sarah o'sullivan, oxford says...
1:32pm Fri 15 Feb 08
To be perfectly honest i think this idea is outragous!! im not racist but things like this make people jude people.. why should we have to listen to the prayers on loud speakers and we wont even understand whats being said even though i imagine alot of people dont care. if people want to hear these prayers then why not go to the mosque or buy the radio transmitters which some people have already got! which brings me to another point which is why cant we put happy christmas up on cowley road but all the asians and muslims ect can put up happy eid??? I just think sometimes what this world is coming too?
H Carlton, London says...
1:34pm Fri 15 Feb 08
I don't think these Anglican preachers have ever been to the Islamic world.
The noise from mosques at times drives everyone crazy. If locals think that they will just hear the sound within two streets of the mosque - they are mistaken and should let people know how unaware they are.
I think it is a step too far. Never mind the noise of eventual competing mosques' calls to prayer; but especially given how Christians, non-Muslims and converts away from Islam are treated in the Islamic world - more caution should be shown when implementing changes to do with Islam in the UK.
Although the little 'call to prayer radio box' in mosque members homes sounds great they should keep using it.
The noise from mosques at times drives everyone crazy. If locals think that they will just hear the sound within two streets of the mosque - they are mistaken and should let people know how unaware they are.
I think it is a step too far. Never mind the noise of eventual competing mosques' calls to prayer; but especially given how Christians, non-Muslims and converts away from Islam are treated in the Islamic world - more caution should be shown when implementing changes to do with Islam in the UK.
Although the little 'call to prayer radio box' in mosque members homes sounds great they should keep using it.
James Dore, Ex-cowley rd says...
2:36pm Fri 15 Feb 08
Having lived off the cowley road for three years, and found it one of the noisiest places I've ever spent any time, I can't forsee how a call to prayer will disturb too much - amongst the police sirens, fights, burglar alarms, thumping music from the dolled-up shopping trollies, pelican crossings etc ad nauseam. The way y'all are carrying on, you'd think east oxford was some sort of rural idyll. Mind you, judging from the incessant narrowing of minds taking place, it's probably not far removed, I suppose. If two minutes of sound once or twice a week is going to upset people that much, then they have much bigger problems to be dealing with.
peries, Cowley says...
3:20pm Fri 15 Feb 08
Prayer call is fine if the locals are fine with it if it becomes a propblems to locals then the Prophet Mohammad said respect your nieghbours they have more rights over you then the person who bought you up dont disturb them or upset them but there are not enough good muslims around now days
K, Cowley says...
4:07pm Fri 15 Feb 08
I don't think people would mind so much if it wasn't for all the PC rubbish that people have had foisted on them, e.g. no Christmas lights on the Cowley Road. If people are treated equally then they're more inclined to be charitable, start giving special rights to minorities and people get resentful.
Alex, Cowley Road says...
4:16pm Fri 15 Feb 08
K wrote:I agree completely. I still can't understand why for months on end we have the crescent and star lights on lamp-posts on Cowley Road. The majority of people living in the Cowley Road area are not muslims, but you won't see any celebration of Christmas on the lamp-posts. The council are too scared of upsetting certain creeds but don't bother about others. That is the price of tolerance, when the PC brigade pander to the intrusive whims of the minority.
I don't think people would mind so much if it wasn't for all the PC rubbish that people have had foisted on them, e.g. no Christmas lights on the Cowley Road. If people are treated equally then they're more inclined to be charitable, start giving special rights to minorities and people get resentful.
charlie, Cowley Road says...
4:49pm Fri 15 Feb 08
... PC rubbish ...special rights to minorities ... council are too scared ... upsetting certain creeds ... intrusive whims of the minority ...
Stop whinging, you provincial, small-minded, dull, middle Englanders. Its a bit of noise. On Cowley Road. You may have noticed its a bit noisy already. Sod off back to Daily Mail land where your petty-minded, xenophobic, and ill informed views might be appreciated. Actually go and work for them. They'll love you. Wazzocks.
Tony Brett, Oxford says...
4:58pm Fri 15 Feb 08
I'd always understood the lights on Cowley Road to be multi-faith lights. They certainly stay up over the Christmas period and I think they are a good way of reflecting the multi-faith nature of the area.
I don't think anyone ever banned Christmas lights on the Cowley Road did they?
I don't think anyone ever banned Christmas lights on the Cowley Road did they?
Sick of Apologists for the PC Brigade, Cowley says...
5:02pm Fri 15 Feb 08
Nice one, 'P.C. Charlie'! "Right on" to the vegetarian Commies such as yourself.
You missed hyphens on the "middle Englanders" (whatever that might be, though I don't speak P.C. myself) and "ill informed". Also an apostrophe in the "Its..". Maybe you should get your mum and dad to help with the punctuation before you send another? You try elsewhere in your post, but fail several times elsewhere. It's no fun when people start accusing, is it?
You missed hyphens on the "middle Englanders" (whatever that might be, though I don't speak P.C. myself) and "ill informed". Also an apostrophe in the "Its..". Maybe you should get your mum and dad to help with the punctuation before you send another? You try elsewhere in your post, but fail several times elsewhere. It's no fun when people start accusing, is it?
Anon, East Oxford says...
5:19pm Fri 15 Feb 08
Tony,
How can the star and crescent (a muslim symbol) lights which are to mark Eid (a muslim festival to mark the end of the muslim period of Ramadan) be "multi faith"? Get real! In what way does a non-muslim person with a religion relate to that as "multi-faith"? I don't.
How can the star and crescent (a muslim symbol) lights which are to mark Eid (a muslim festival to mark the end of the muslim period of Ramadan) be "multi faith"? Get real! In what way does a non-muslim person with a religion relate to that as "multi-faith"? I don't.
Nellie, Oxford says...
6:11pm Fri 15 Feb 08
Umm, I always thought that the star was Christian symbol (as in the Star of Bethlehem, not the Star of Fleet Street), but maybe I was indoctrinated poorly as a child.
Doesn't this make it multi faith if there is a star and a crescent on the lights that stay up over christmas as well. PS: for added multi faithability the Star is also a Jewish symbol.
PPS: I have just made faithability up as word and quite like it thanks.
Doesn't this make it multi faith if there is a star and a crescent on the lights that stay up over christmas as well. PS: for added multi faithability the Star is also a Jewish symbol.
PPS: I have just made faithability up as word and quite like it thanks.
alan page, says...
6:31pm Fri 15 Feb 08
Tell you what, let's go the whole hog.
Let's festoon Cowley Road with every known brand of celebratory light display we can find.
Everything from Christmas to whatever the Zoroastrians celebrate. Then we could wire them up to a computerised system so at a specific holiday time, the relevant set of lights will come on.
That way our aggrieved wog bashing "christians" won't feel put out by a load of little fairy lights draped around some lamposts and can go back to their copies of the BNP manifesto and let the rest of us get on with our lives deprived of the truculent, purulent, festering,pustulant crap oozing forth from their vocal cavities.
Of course, we would also have to take into consideration the feelings of atheists, well they can work through all the holiday periods whilst we put our feet up.
Let's festoon Cowley Road with every known brand of celebratory light display we can find.
Everything from Christmas to whatever the Zoroastrians celebrate. Then we could wire them up to a computerised system so at a specific holiday time, the relevant set of lights will come on.
That way our aggrieved wog bashing "christians" won't feel put out by a load of little fairy lights draped around some lamposts and can go back to their copies of the BNP manifesto and let the rest of us get on with our lives deprived of the truculent, purulent, festering,pustulant crap oozing forth from their vocal cavities.
Of course, we would also have to take into consideration the feelings of atheists, well they can work through all the holiday periods whilst we put our feet up.
poppy, iffley road says...
6:48pm Fri 15 Feb 08
The only people who dont mind the call to prayer are the bloody do gooders who do not live near mosques. I am so angry that they can block your drive every Friday and park every where illegal now I will get a call to remind me that all the roads will be blocked up and I can stay indoors, thats what it would mean to me ?????????????
DanOxford, says...
7:13pm Fri 15 Feb 08
The morally bankrupt, intolerant, irrational and ignorant foundations of ALL religions are crumbling under the weight of mass communications, scientific evidence and 2000 years of human advancement.
Islamists, mainly coming from educationally, socially, culturally and financially backwards places, are attempting to impose their views on the hated 'West' which they of course blame for their own backwardness and sexual repression.
Knowing that religion is no longer the cosy, cucumber sandwiches and village fete, carol service and white wedding minor diversion as it thas been in England for may years, most reasonable, intelligent and rational people are looking again at religion and drawing negative conclusions about it.
Now realising thet their days are numbered, Church figures such as the Archbishop of Canterbury, The Bishop of Oxford and The Rev Adam Romanis would rather sell out the Country and support people who stone adulterers, amputate limbs, flog women and imprison homosexuals rather than see the Church lose power, money and influence.
Religion hasn't worked for (at least) the last 2 millenia- time to consign it to the dustbin of History.
Islamists, mainly coming from educationally, socially, culturally and financially backwards places, are attempting to impose their views on the hated 'West' which they of course blame for their own backwardness and sexual repression.
Knowing that religion is no longer the cosy, cucumber sandwiches and village fete, carol service and white wedding minor diversion as it thas been in England for may years, most reasonable, intelligent and rational people are looking again at religion and drawing negative conclusions about it.
Now realising thet their days are numbered, Church figures such as the Archbishop of Canterbury, The Bishop of Oxford and The Rev Adam Romanis would rather sell out the Country and support people who stone adulterers, amputate limbs, flog women and imprison homosexuals rather than see the Church lose power, money and influence.
Religion hasn't worked for (at least) the last 2 millenia- time to consign it to the dustbin of History.
DanOxford, says...
7:17pm Fri 15 Feb 08
charlie wrote:You're SO right- what we should be is tolerant and open minded- like- um- The Muslim world!
... PC rubbish ...special rights to minorities ... council are too scared ... upsetting certain creeds ... intrusive whims of the minority ...Stop whinging, you provincial, small-minded, dull, middle Englanders. Its a bit of noise. On Cowley Road. You may have noticed its a bit noisy already. Sod off back to Daily Mail land where your petty-minded, xenophobic, and ill informed views might be appreciated. Actually go and work for them. They'll love you. Wazzocks.
If it wasn't for all these Daily Mail, Little Englander racist BNP supporting fools we could be living in a society like Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Pakistan....thank GOODNESS for you right- on multicultural liberal types eh?
alan page, says...
7:59pm Fri 15 Feb 08
DanOxford wrote:Tell you what, when scientists can come up with quantifiable data surrounding the existence of "mind" and "consciousness" then perhaps the equally militant and intolerant atheist brigade can start declaring itself victorious.
The morally bankrupt, intolerant, irrational and ignorant foundations of ALL religions are crumbling under the weight of mass communications, scientific evidence and 2000 years of human advancement. Islamists, mainly coming from educationally, socially, culturally and financially backwards places, are attempting to impose their views on the hated \'West\' which they of course blame for their own backwardness and sexual repression. Knowing that religion is no longer the cosy, cucumber sandwiches and village fete, carol service and white wedding minor diversion as it thas been in England for may years, most reasonable, intelligent and rational people are looking again at religion and drawing negative conclusions about it. Now realising thet their days are numbered, Church figures such as the Archbishop of Canterbury, The Bishop of Oxford and The Rev Adam Romanis would rather sell out the Country and support people who stone adulterers, amputate limbs, flog women and imprison homosexuals rather than see the Church lose power, money and influence. Religion hasn\'t worked for (at least) the last 2 millenia- time to consign it to the dustbin of History.
Until then just keep up with the ranting.
"There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in your philosophy."
alan page, says...
8:03pm Fri 15 Feb 08
DanOxford wrote:Who was that bagpiper you were up in arms about again? Heath somebody?
charlie wrote:You\'re SO right- what we should be is tolerant and open minded- like- um- The Muslim world! If it wasn\'t for all these Daily Mail, Little Englander racist BNP supporting fools we could be living in a society like Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Pakistan....thank GOODNESS for you right- on multicultural liberal types eh?... PC rubbish ...special rights to minorities ... council are too scared ... upsetting certain creeds ... intrusive whims of the minority ...Stop whinging, you provincial, small-minded, dull, middle Englanders. Its a bit of noise. On Cowley Road. You may have noticed its a bit noisy already. Sod off back to Daily Mail land where your petty-minded, xenophobic, and ill informed views might be appreciated. Actually go and work for them. They\'ll love you. Wazzocks.
To think a mind as tiny as this can earn over £15,000 a year.
The bind moggles.
alan page, says...
8:10pm Fri 15 Feb 08
poppy wrote:So you are somebody who lives near the mosque are you?
The only people who dont mind the call to prayer are the bloody do gooders who do not live near mosques. I am so angry that they can block your drive every Friday and park every where illegal now I will get a call to remind me that all the roads will be blocked up and I can stay indoors, thats what it would mean to me ?????????????
Well it must have moved because it was nowhere near Iffley Road when I lived there.
DanOxford, says...
9:04pm Fri 15 Feb 08
Alan, 'mind' 'consciousess and all the 'immeasurable' (and therefore probably non existent...) things that go together to form your opinions are nothing more than electrical impulses from neurons firing off in your head.
No-one has ever put forward any convincing argument for the need, let alone existence, of any God.
There are however, numerous well- documented reasons why any rational modern society should vigorously defend against the spread of such nonsensical, harmful beliefs- especially those plagiarised from other religions as Islam is.
No-one has ever put forward any convincing argument for the need, let alone existence, of any God.
There are however, numerous well- documented reasons why any rational modern society should vigorously defend against the spread of such nonsensical, harmful beliefs- especially those plagiarised from other religions as Islam is.
GOD, UP says...
9:16pm Fri 15 Feb 08
DanOxford wrote:God bless you my true and faithful servant.Go forth and multiply (and quickly)
Alan, 'mind' 'consciousess and all the 'immeasurable' (and therefore probably non existent...) things that go together to form your opinions are nothing more than electrical impulses from neurons firing off in your head. No-one has ever put forward any convincing argument for the need, let alone existence, of any God. There are however, numerous well- documented reasons why any rational modern society should vigorously defend against the spread of such nonsensical, harmful beliefs- especially those plagiarised from other religions as Islam is.
alan page, says...
9:30pm Fri 15 Feb 08
DanOxford wrote:So you now deny the existence of consciousness?
Alan, 'mind' 'consciousess and all the 'immeasurable' (and therefore probably non existent...) things that go together to form your opinions are nothing more than electrical impulses from neurons firing off in your head. No-one has ever put forward any convincing argument for the need, let alone existence, of any God. There are however, numerous well- documented reasons why any rational modern society should vigorously defend against the spread of such nonsensical, harmful beliefs- especially those plagiarised from other religions as Islam is.
I have put forward that the need for transcendence must be a basic part of the human psyche for the concept god to have evolved anyway.
Feuerbach puts it down to satisfying human psychological needs.
The problem with simple minded bigotry like yours is that it ends up imitating precisely what it claims to deride in others.
What do you make of Quantum physics by the way? That calls everything you would hold to be empirical fact into serious question? Notions like solidity, seperate identities, life, death etc. etc.
It is the supreme irrationality and yet it is scientifically verfiable.
Oddly enough the person who tuned me into Sufism was a scientist. He had a very strange supernatural experience that Dawkins would not be able to explain.
It made him far more accepting of scientific limits than you appear to be.
poppy, iffley road says...
10:57pm Sat 16 Feb 08
To Alan Page, when I go up Iffley Road on a Friday its all blocked up with the people at the mosque in Stanley Road, when I go to my doctors in Manzil way the same thing. Do you know your way around Easy Oxford, where do you live by the way ?????
poppy, iffley road says...
10:59pm Sat 16 Feb 08
I meant East Oxford !
DanOxford, Oxford says...
12:03am Sun 17 Feb 08
Poppy- when Alan isn't dabbling in Middle Eastern mysticism and exploring the astral plane and his 'higher consciousness' (please!) he lives in Birmingham doesn't he?
Of course this doesn't prevent him from telling East Oxford residents what their community and daily life should be like does it?
Of course this doesn't prevent him from telling East Oxford residents what their community and daily life should be like does it?
Ricky, oxford says...
6:52am Sun 17 Feb 08
God wrote:agree totally we originated from the resus (monkeys) when will people realize all this mohamad ali christ nonsence religion should be banned the goverment are good at banning !!come on gorm gord
I don\'t exist, so people please find something else to occupy your time. Oh, and there\'s no Devil and no Heaven or Hell either, and when you die it all goes black for you and you feel nothing more and you might be buried and become food for worms. I\'m just an abstract concept and definitely not worth making others inconvenienced, or suffering, or dying for.
alan page, says...
10:46am Mon 18 Feb 08
DanOxford wrote:No I don't live in Birmingham.
Poppy- when Alan isn't dabbling in Middle Eastern mysticism and exploring the astral plane and his 'higher consciousness' (please!) he lives in Birmingham doesn't he? Of course this doesn't prevent him from telling East Oxford residents what their community and daily life should be like does it?
Used to live on the Iffley Road and saw no problems other than the usual rush hour fuss.
Left Oxford after realising its inhabitants were a bunch of inbred racists who have never dared venture out of the place for their entire lives.
Where have I mentioned "higher consciouness" by the way?
You deny conciousness exist?
poppy, iffley road says...
5:48pm Mon 18 Feb 08
You left East Oxford because it is a dump and anything goes. We are not inbred, to marry my first cousin or uncle would disgust me !!
Dhimmied, UK says...
5:45pm Fri 29 Feb 08
Tarbatt wrote:It is as simple as ****, Islam only has ONE agenda, the TOTAL TAKEOVER OF ANYTHING ELSE AT ALL!
The Rev. Romanis is a typical gutless Church of England nobody. It is little wonder that many Christians in this country look away from the Church of England for spiritual leadership. But all credit to Altaf Hussain, who recognises the anxiety the proposal for a loudspeaker call to prayer has caused.
Currently it is presuming to takeover Oxford, and the TOTAL DICKHEADS that are the Anglican priests/bishops show that they have NO UNDERSTANDING at all!
for a simple explanation, see:-
http://video.google.
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Dhimmied, UK says...
5:51pm Fri 29 Feb 08
cottage2day wrote:Because they are TAKING-OVER YOUR TOWN!
This should not be allowed. I do not want to be woken up at 5am every morning by a prayer belowing out of speakers. They have managed fine so far, why do they have to make everyone else listen to it.
Dhimmied, UK says...
6:00pm Fri 29 Feb 08
Alex wrote:It is as simple as ****! Islam only has ONE agenda, ...the TOTAL TAKEOVER OF ANYTHING ELSE AT ALL!
K wrote: I don't think people would mind so much if it wasn't for all the PC rubbish that people have had foisted on them, e.g. no Christmas lights on the Cowley Road. If people are treated equally then they're more inclined to be charitable, start giving special rights to minorities and people get resentful.I agree completely. I still can't understand why for months on end we have the crescent and star lights on lamp-posts on Cowley Road. The majority of people living in the Cowley Road area are not muslims, but you won't see any celebration of Christmas on the lamp-posts. The council are too scared of upsetting certain creeds but don't bother about others. That is the price of tolerance, when the PC brigade pander to the intrusive whims of the minority.
So you simple ex-christians are less than a mousehill in the road! (to TOTAL CONTROL)
.
Dhimmied, UK says...
6:09pm Fri 29 Feb 08
Tarbatt wrote:You are right, he is "
The Rev. Romanis is a typical gutless Church of England nobody. It is little wonder that many Christians in this country look away from the Church of England for spiritual leadership. But all credit to Altaf Hussain, who recognises the anxiety the proposal for a loudspeaker call to prayer has caused.
a typical gutless Church of England nobody."
....but then so is the WHOLE of the UK Church.
reference the ARCHBISHOP OF CANT. -total collapse and Dhimmification !....
...what we need is a REAL REVOLUTION!
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Dhimmied, UK says...
6:17pm Fri 29 Feb 08
charlie wrote:Dik-Ead Extraordinaire!
... PC rubbish ...special rights to minorities ... council are too scared ... upsetting certain creeds ... intrusive whims of the minority ...Stop whinging, you provincial, small-minded, dull, middle Englanders. Its a bit of noise. On Cowley Road. You may have noticed its a bit noisy already. Sod off back to Daily Mail land where your petty-minded, xenophobic, and ill informed views might be appreciated. Actually go and work for them. They'll love you. Wazzocks.
...or mor likely a Muslim!
Who is one of the army that are presuming to COLONISE The UK! (no chance!)
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Dhimmied, UK says...
6:24pm Fri 29 Feb 08
alan page wrote:An obviously seriously POISONOUS post, coming fom a TOTAL DICKHEAD ISLAMIST!.
Tell you what, let's go the whole hog. Let's festoon Cowley Road with every known brand of celebratory light display we can find. Everything from Christmas to whatever the Zoroastrians celebrate. Then we could wire them up to a computerised system so at a specific holiday time, the relevant set of lights will come on. That way our aggrieved wog bashing "christians" won't feel put out by a load of little fairy lights draped around some lamposts and can go back to their copies of the BNP manifesto and let the rest of us get on with our lives deprived of the truculent, purulent, festering,pustulant crap oozing forth from their vocal cavities. Of course, we would also have to take into consideration the feelings of atheists, well they can work through all the holiday periods whilst we put our feet up.
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Dhimmied, UK says...
6:36pm Fri 29 Feb 08
poppy wrote:Don't worry Poppy,the UK Government have everything under control, You will be Colonised by Islam, and it will be good for your soul. Except that 'Your Soul' will be TOTALLY CONTROLLED BY ISLAM, -which treats simple people like you, like an ****.
The only people who dont mind the call to prayer are the bloody do gooders who do not live near mosques. I am so angry that they can block your drive every Friday and park every where illegal now I will get a call to remind me that all the roads will be blocked up and I can stay indoors, thats what it would mean to me ?????????????
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Dhimmied, UK says...
7:56am Sat 1 Mar 08
God wrote:Hey, GOD, considering you don't exist, you seem to have very particular opinions !
I don't exist, so people please find something else to occupy your time. Oh, and there's no Devil and no Heaven or Hell either, and when you die it all goes black for you and you feel nothing more and you might be buried and become food for worms. I'm just an abstract concept and definitely not worth making others inconvenienced, or suffering, or dying for.
I think you are just pretending to be GOD, and are in fact some kind of Atheist/agnostic/sec
ularist git.
Dhimmied, UK says...
2:35pm Sat 1 Mar 08
DanOxford wrote:Excellent stuff, unfortunately the UK Governments since the War have allowed (and continue to allow) endless immigration of Muslims to this Country. Islam is a Totalitarian and Supremacist 'religion'
The morally bankrupt, intolerant, irrational and ignorant foundations of ALL religions are crumbling under the weight of mass communications, scientific evidence and 2000 years of human advancement. Islamists, mainly coming from educationally, socially, culturally and financially backwards places, are attempting to impose their views on the hated 'West' which they of course blame for their own backwardness and sexual repression. Knowing that religion is no longer the cosy, cucumber sandwiches and village fete, carol service and white wedding minor diversion as it thas been in England for may years, most reasonable, intelligent and rational people are looking again at religion and drawing negative conclusions about it. Now realising thet their days are numbered, Church figures such as the Archbishop of Canterbury, The Bishop of Oxford and The Rev Adam Romanis would rather sell out the Country and support people who stone adulterers, amputate limbs, flog women and imprison homosexuals rather than see the Church lose power, money and influence. Religion hasn't worked for (at least) the last 2 millenia- time to consign it to the dustbin of History.
and only has the one agenda of total takeover !
For an education on the subject see:-
http://video.google.
com/videoplay?docid=
-871902797772997781&
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This is the future the Lib/Lab/Cons are prescribing for Oxford, and the UK.
Why are we so silly to accept this?
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The Rev Adam Romanis on the tower of SS Mary and John Church, with the Oxford Central Mosque in the background
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Tony Brett, Oxford says...
9:00am Fri 15 Feb 08
It's good however to see sensible, considered positions both from the Mosque council and the local vicar. Well done!