MORE than 1,000 people are expected to descend on Oxford Union's Free Speech Forum on Monday, following its decision to invite a Holocaust denier and the BNP leader.
Weyman Bennett, national secretary of pressure group Unite Against Fascism has compared the decision to ask historian David Irving and British National Party leader Nick Griffin to speak at the forum as akin to "giving Hitler a platform".
He claimed the amount of people attending the demonstration would eclipse the 1,062 who voted to support invitations to the two controversial figures last night.
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The ballot saw another 640 union members vote against the motion to invite the two.
Mr Bennett said: "The vote is a disaster for democracy. Would you give Hitler a platform?
"It is irresponsible and dangerous. We are planning to have a big protest. There will be more people outside the Oxford Union than inside, and there will be more people outside the union than voted for this debate to go ahead."
Martin McCluskey, President of Oxford University Student Union, said he would be among the protesters outside the forum, which takes place in Frewin Court, St Michael's Street from 8.30pm.
He said: "I am disappointed that the vote went that way.
"It is only a matter of time before Nick Griffin starts saying 'the students of Oxford University listened to me, you should do to.'
"They are going to use it to propagate their views elsewhere."
More than 100 people attended an anti-fascist protest at Oxford's Town Hall in the week ahead of the vote, and other high profile figures due to attend debates at the union have pulled out of their engagements in protest.
These include television presenter June Sarpong, Defence Secretary Des Browne, and Labour MP Austin Mitchell.
Mr Irving, who was jailed in Austria for denying the Nazi execution of millions of Jews, said: "I am six feet two inches - I have not been intimidated before and I do not think I will be intimidated this time.
"I am very pleased I will have the opportunity to speak at the Oxford Union. I was convinced that the enemies of free speech would prevent me speaking."
He added he had been stopped from speaking at the Oxford Union in the past because Thames Valley Police had raised public order concerns.
Posted by: Save British Culture, Oxford on 1:15pm Sat 24 Nov 07
ATTENTION PEOPLE!
As young people I am sure you have noticed a sharp rise in the number of foreigners in our country. This is bad news for us because it breaks up our communities. They often don't speak our language and it sounds awful. If immigration is not stopped within three decades we will be outnumbered 80 to 1 in our own country and will be an ETHNIC MINORITY here. Vote BNP as soon as you're old enough. They're the only party that put British people first.
ATTENTION PEOPLE!
As young people I am sure you have noticed a sharp rise in the number of foreigners in our country. This is bad news for us because it breaks up our communities. They often don't speak our language and it sounds awful. If immigration is not stopped within three decades we will be outnumbered 80 to 1 in our own country and will be an ETHNIC MINORITY here. Vote BNP as soon as you're old enough. They're the only party that put British people first.
Posted by: free speech, democracy on 1:25pm Sat 24 Nov 07
free speech means free speech - as long as the lefties agree with it
if the lefties dont agree with it - then your not allowed free speech -
you cant beat hypocrites
free speech means free speech - as long as the lefties agree with it
if the lefties dont agree with it - then your not allowed free speech -
Posted by: You're 100% right Union Jack!, Oxford on 1:25pm Sat 24 Nov 07
I was in Tesco near Risinghurst the other day and it was very busy. The amazing thing was I couldn't see anyone English anywhere - worrying as I'm in the middle of England.
I was in Tesco near Risinghurst the other day and it was very busy. The amazing thing was I couldn't see anyone English anywhere - worrying as I'm in the middle of England.
Posted by: Common-Sense, Oxford on 1:30pm Sat 24 Nov 07
I wouldn't bet on being allowed free speech by the anti-British lefties who are too firghtened to admit our country and identity is going doen the European drain thanks to Tony Blair's big identity shredder. Now that's what you call identity theft! Let's have some national pride back and be able to tell that we're in England not Pakistan! I keep thinking I'll see Saddam Hussein walking the streets!
I wouldn't bet on being allowed free speech by the anti-British lefties who are too firghtened to admit our country and identity is going doen the European drain thanks to Tony Blair's big identity shredder. Now that's what you call identity theft! Let's have some national pride back and be able to tell that we're in England not Pakistan! I keep thinking I'll see Saddam Hussein walking the streets!
Posted by: David Smith, Headington on 1:54pm Sat 24 Nov 07
GOOD LUCK NICK GRIFFIN! I hope you can restore some loyalty amongst our own people who are letting their own country become a foreign land.
"We want Great Britain. We want to see British people, not a mix of different cultures. If it was like that in every country, a mixture, there would be no passion like at England games collectively in the community and no individuality. May the BNP rise.
GOOD LUCK NICK GRIFFIN! I hope you can restore some loyalty amongst our own people who are letting their own country become a foreign land.
"We want Great Britain. We want to see British people, not a mix of different cultures. If it was like that in every country, a mixture, there would be no passion like at England games collectively in the community and no individuality. May the BNP rise.
Posted by: Liberal and proud, Oxford on 2:29pm Sat 24 Nov 07
It is not a leftish position to campaign against this event. It is entirely liberal and defends the British tradition of BALANCE alongside freedom of speech. There is no balance whatsoever in this event. And, as can be seen by the repulsive comments which others have posted, it will be seen as a platform for the BNP and their supporters. As an Oxford student I am ashamed that so many are unaware that freedom of speech must go hand in hand with balance and responsibility. This gives an unmoderated platform to not one, but two fascists.
It is not a leftish position to campaign against this event. It is entirely liberal and defends the British tradition of BALANCE alongside freedom of speech. There is no balance whatsoever in this event. And, as can be seen by the repulsive comments which others have posted, it will be seen as a platform for the BNP and their supporters. As an Oxford student I am ashamed that so many are unaware that freedom of speech must go hand in hand with balance and responsibility. This gives an unmoderated platform to not one, but two fascists.
Posted by: End Weak Liberalism, Oxford on 2:33pm Sat 24 Nov 07
Stop it you weak-knee liberals. Our country's fallen considerably under years of gutless liberalism. We're losing our national identity under it at the moment. It's only a matter of time before it kicks off!
Stop it you weak-knee liberals. Our country's fallen considerably under years of gutless liberalism. We're losing our national identity under it at the moment. It's only a matter of time before it kicks off!
"There is no balance whatsoever in this event. And, as can be seen by the repulsive comments which others have posted, it will be seen as a platform for the BNP and their supporters."
If there's no 'balance' then that's the fault of the incompetent opposition, not Irving or Griffin. And so what if it's seen as a platform for the BNP? If you want safe, bland viewpoints then leave university and join a cult.
[italic]"As an Oxford student I am ashamed that so many are unaware that freedom of speech must go hand in hand with balance and responsibility."[/italic]
Utter rubbish. If I say something I don't have to provide 'balance' alongside it. And who decides what 'responsible' is? You? Me? In other words, you don't really believe in freedom of speech at all, except for views that are 'balanced' and 'moderate', just like yours. Yeah, right...
And why do lefties always boast of feeling 'ashamed' of things they personally had nothing to do with? Is it the feeling of self-importance that it brings? Perhaps this hand-wringing liberal should pay compensation to the 'offended' minority if he feels so responsble for their suffering.
"There is no balance whatsoever in this event. And, as can be seen by the repulsive comments which others have posted, it will be seen as a platform for the BNP and their supporters."
If there's no 'balance' then that's the fault of the incompetent opposition, not Irving or Griffin. And so what if it's seen as a platform for the BNP? If you want safe, bland viewpoints then leave university and join a cult.
"As an Oxford student I am ashamed that so many are unaware that freedom of speech must go hand in hand with balance and responsibility."
Utter rubbish. If I say something I don't have to provide 'balance' alongside it. And who decides what 'responsible' is? You? Me? In other words, you don't really believe in freedom of speech at all, except for views that are 'balanced' and 'moderate', just like yours. Yeah, right...
And why do lefties always boast of feeling 'ashamed' of things they personally had nothing to do with? Is it the feeling of self-importance that it brings? Perhaps this hand-wringing liberal should pay compensation to the 'offended' minority if he feels so responsble for their suffering.
wayland bennett is a joke,without racism he's out of a job...guess who's interest its in to stir it up? plus guess who all the violence will be from...wayland and his gang of violent thugs...he is so hypocritical its actually funny (well it would be if it wasnt so blood boilng)
wayland bennett is a joke,without racism he's out of a job...guess who's interest its in to stir it up? plus guess who all the violence will be from...wayland and his gang of violent thugs...he is so hypocritical its actually funny (well it would be if it wasnt so blood boilng)
Posted by: John, Summertown on 4:17pm Sat 24 Nov 07
The first 5 comments here are clearly all written by the same person. About half of the other posts are written by them as well. See if you can spot them.
The first 5 comments here are clearly all written by the same person. About half of the other posts are written by them as well. See if you can spot them.
Since when has "English" been an ethnicity? It is a nationality; and something you gain not necessarily by being born here.
Any "rightie" would see me or any one of my family as "English”, but only because we are white and speak without an accent.
In any case, who cares? Many of my friends are from different nationalities and ethnic groups, and it is refreshing.
Should Irving and Griffin speak? Yes. At the Oxford Union? No. I have no problem with free speech, BUT we should not be giving nasty, racist and fascist views the appearance of being mainstream.
I have no problem with some kind of fringe meeting in Hyde Park, or anywhere else. But letting these people into the heart of the establishment is giving the message that these views are respectable and valid, which they are patently not.
Since when has "English" been an ethnicity? It is a nationality; and something you gain not necessarily by being born here.
Any "rightie" would see me or any one of my family as "English”, but only because we are white and speak without an accent.
In any case, who cares? Many of my friends are from different nationalities and ethnic groups, and it is refreshing.
Should Irving and Griffin speak? Yes. At the Oxford Union? No. I have no problem with free speech, BUT we should not be giving nasty, racist and fascist views the appearance of being mainstream.
I have no problem with some kind of fringe meeting in Hyde Park, or anywhere else. But letting these people into the heart of the establishment is giving the message that these views are respectable and valid, which they are patently not.
Posted by: Thinker, Risinghurst on 4:30pm Sat 24 Nov 07
So, left-wing anti-British people, who will you discuss issues with on this forum in about twenty years' time. Some Romanian gypsies who have pickpocketed you? Or maybe the eighty percent of the population who cannot speak English. Sure, it's going to be hard!
So, left-wing anti-British people, who will you discuss issues with on this forum in about twenty years' time. Some Romanian gypsies who have pickpocketed you? Or maybe the eighty percent of the population who cannot speak English. Sure, it's going to be hard!
Posted by: Spartacus, Cowley on 4:37pm Sat 24 Nov 07
Amazing isn't it! The Black leader of the fascist UAF, plus the Jewish Leader of the Uni Jewish society and the Muslim leader of the Uni Islamic society think they have some God-given right to tell British students like me to whom we may or may not, listen!! If that isn't naked fascism then I don't know what is!
If these foreigners don't like the way we Brits. operate within OUR democratic society then they should do us all a favour and sod off back to whatever part of the world they may have originated from!
Amazing isn't it! The Black leader of the fascist UAF, plus the Jewish Leader of the Uni Jewish society and the Muslim leader of the Uni Islamic society think they have some God-given right to tell British students like me to whom we may or may not, listen!! If that isn't naked fascism then I don't know what is!
If these foreigners don't like the way we Brits. operate within OUR democratic society then they should do us all a favour and sod off back to whatever part of the world they may have originated from!
Posted by: Spartacus supporter, Headington on 4:45pm Sat 24 Nov 07
Well said Spartacus! You're not allowed to say anything to the non-white but they can slag you off in your own country. Enough is enough, if they don't like Christmas they should bugger off back to their OWN country.
Well said Spartacus! You're not allowed to say anything to the non-white but they can slag you off in your own country. Enough is enough, if they don't like Christmas they should bugger off back to their OWN country.
Weyman Bennett is a British Trotskyist and a member of the Central Committee of the Socialist Workers Party.
http://www.answers.c
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Why does the Mail give him a platform? or even refer to him as extreme left?
Weyman Bennett is a British Trotskyist and a member of the Central Committee of the Socialist Workers Party.
Of course the English are an ethnic group, studies have shown they are over 80% the same as the people who where here 18,000 year ago, the waves are immigration up until now have had little effect. The idea they are not an ethnic group is the lefties desperate need to destroy the English as they have always wanted to do.
Of course the English are an ethnic group, studies have shown they are over 80% the same as the people who where here 18,000 year ago, the waves are immigration up until now have had little effect. The idea they are not an ethnic group is the lefties desperate need to destroy the English as they have always wanted to do.
Posted by: Labour Hater, Headington on 5:00pm Sat 24 Nov 07
The BNP thankfully is the most popular that it has been since the 1970s, and is rocketing in popularity with membership soaring (see related websites). This shows how angry most Britons are about having their heritage and soul taken away from them. This was evident in the England match where minimal passion was shown. Our national team won't be able to field a team in a few years. Well done anti-British morons, when the BNP deservedly rise to power I hope you all bog off to Mongolia or somethere. Good riddance.
The BNP thankfully is the most popular that it has been since the 1970s, and is rocketing in popularity with membership soaring (see related websites). This shows how angry most Britons are about having their heritage and soul taken away from them. This was evident in the England match where minimal passion was shown. Our national team won't be able to field a team in a few years. Well done anti-British morons, when the BNP deservedly rise to power I hope you all bog off to Mongolia or somethere. Good riddance.
Posted by: robert, scotland on 5:04pm Sat 24 Nov 07
YOU have to ask yourself why the main political parties and the Media are constantly making innuendos about the British National Party.
They say that nobody will vote for the BNP.
If this is the case why not just ignore the fact when a BNP member is standing for election? Or is it the case that mainstream politicians have lost their way in this politically-correct society?
They need to stick their heads above the parapet and look at what’s happening in this country with regards to immigration-related problems.
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YOU have to ask yourself why the main political parties and the Media are constantly making innuendos about the British National Party.
They say that nobody will vote for the BNP.
If this is the case why not just ignore the fact when a BNP member is standing for election? Or is it the case that mainstream politicians have lost their way in this politically-correct society?
They need to stick their heads above the parapet and look at what’s happening in this country with regards to immigration-related problems.
Posted by: Rightie, Barnet on 5:12pm Sat 24 Nov 07
Let's for Goodness' sake boot out this awful corrupt Government and let British people be British. It's just like New Labour letting opening its doors and letting in half Tories. Britain is for the British, not 100 bits and pieces of faiths. I say good on you Griffin.
Let's for Goodness' sake boot out this awful corrupt Government and let British people be British. It's just like New Labour letting opening its doors and letting in half Tories. Britain is for the British, not 100 bits and pieces of faiths. I say good on you Griffin.
Posted by: British, Oxford on 5:51pm Sat 24 Nov 07
I am British, but I am ashamed to have this in common with the thugs racists and idiots posting about "Britain is for British" blah blah blah.
Have you stopped to think what makes us alike? Probably not. Britain has had a culture of openness for a long time.
Why don't YOU "go back where you came from"? 1930's Germany - you'd like it there.
I am British, but I am ashamed to have this in common with the thugs racists and idiots posting about "Britain is for British" blah blah blah.
Have you stopped to think what makes us alike? Probably not. Britain has had a culture of openness for a long time.
Why don't YOU "go back where you came from"? 1930's Germany - you'd like it there.
Posted by: Chris Brand, Edinburgh on 6:54pm Sat 24 Nov 07
Congratulations to Oxford students on their robust preference for free debate! When British universities have suppressed the race realism of six of their academics in the past ten years, it would have been tragic for the Oxford Union to join the ranks of PeeCee. All students now have a duty to support free speech in universities at this critical juncture before it is whisked away by NuLabour or the Oxford Vice-Chancellor demanding cancellation. One's heart goes out to O.U. President Luke Tryl, faced as he is by hysterical leftists (whose political forebears actually did nothing to oppose Hitler c. 1933-41) and doubtless by spineless modern Oxford 'academics' (who have done precisely nothing to contribute to debate about race, intelligence and the problems of sub-Saharan Africa over the past generation). Luke's position is even more precarious since the recent withdrawal of the 'scholars' of London, Bristol and Edinburgh from hearing the race realism of Nobelist James Watson. Luke is a brave man and it is lucky for today's shamelessly ignoracist and Enoch-denying Not-the-Conservative
-Party that he has got his eye on leadership -- hopefully taking the party towards the national liberalism of Palmerston and Lloyd George, including free speech for Englishmen.
As to the 'limits of free speech' issue itself, let us hope to see despatched the left's tired argument that free speech should be 'sensitive.' A right to inoffensive speech is not worth having -- for no-one minds speech with which they agree. The former Lord Chancellor, Lord Hailsham, wrote in 'The Dilemma Of Democracy': “There is no way of having a free society in which there is not abuse. Abuse is the very hallmark of liberty”. And let us hope too for some recognition that (as my 1996/7 case in Edinburgh University showed) current British law provides NO special protection of ‘academic freedom’: as E.U. itself amazingly but successfully argued before a High Court judge, a British university has currently no more obligation to continue a controversial outspeaker in employment than does a biscuit factory.
Congratulations to Oxford students on their robust preference for free debate! When British universities have suppressed the race realism of six of their academics in the past ten years, it would have been tragic for the Oxford Union to join the ranks of PeeCee. All students now have a duty to support free speech in universities at this critical juncture before it is whisked away by NuLabour or the Oxford Vice-Chancellor demanding cancellation. One's heart goes out to O.U. President Luke Tryl, faced as he is by hysterical leftists (whose political forebears actually did nothing to oppose Hitler c. 1933-41) and doubtless by spineless modern Oxford 'academics' (who have done precisely nothing to contribute to debate about race, intelligence and the problems of sub-Saharan Africa over the past generation). Luke's position is even more precarious since the recent withdrawal of the 'scholars' of London, Bristol and Edinburgh from hearing the race realism of Nobelist James Watson. Luke is a brave man and it is lucky for today's shamelessly ignoracist and Enoch-denying Not-the-Conservative
-Party that he has got his eye on leadership -- hopefully taking the party towards the national liberalism of Palmerston and Lloyd George, including free speech for Englishmen.
As to the 'limits of free speech' issue itself, let us hope to see despatched the left's tired argument that free speech should be 'sensitive.' A right to inoffensive speech is not worth having -- for no-one minds speech with which they agree. The former Lord Chancellor, Lord Hailsham, wrote in 'The Dilemma Of Democracy': “There is no way of having a free society in which there is not abuse. Abuse is the very hallmark of liberty”. And let us hope too for some recognition that (as my 1996/7 case in Edinburgh University showed) current British law provides NO special protection of ‘academic freedom’: as E.U. itself amazingly but successfully argued before a High Court judge, a British university has currently no more obligation to continue a controversial outspeaker in employment than does a biscuit factory.
Posted by: Nick von Stranz, Tuhalaane, Estonia on 7:51pm Sat 24 Nov 07
Opposing arguments used to be the very
kernel of public debate. Because both
speakers are seen as not adhering to an indoctrinated majority view on key issues,I am delighted that the invitations stand. At least for those who will listen there is a chance that some fixed opinions about the world we live may be refined if not revised.
Opposing arguments used to be the very
kernel of public debate. Because both
speakers are seen as not adhering to an indoctrinated majority view on key issues,I am delighted that the invitations stand. At least for those who will listen there is a chance that some fixed opinions about the world we live may be refined if not revised.
Posted by: Green Arrow, South Wales on 8:03pm Sat 24 Nov 07
Well Oxford is in for a treat if Nick Griffin does speak.
Just do a search on Youtube or visit the BNPTv page here:
www.bnptv.org.uk
Then come back and post your comments
Well Oxford is in for a treat if Nick Griffin does speak.
Just do a search on Youtube or visit the BNPTv page here:
www.bnptv.org.uk
I do not actively support either Irving or the BNP but the protests by various "anti-fascist" groups makes me deeply suspicious.
"The vote is a disaster for democracy" says Weyman Bennett, national secretary of pressure group Unite Against Fascism. But one has to wonder whose democracy Bennet refers to because he is actually engaged in the suppression of free speech.
Let Griffin and Irving have their say and allow the public to judge for themselves, for better or worse. After all that is the essence of democracy and free speech.
I do not actively support either Irving or the BNP but the protests by various "anti-fascist" groups makes me deeply suspicious.
"The vote is a disaster for democracy" says Weyman Bennett, national secretary of pressure group Unite Against Fascism. But one has to wonder whose democracy Bennet refers to because he is actually engaged in the suppression of free speech.
Let Griffin and Irving have their say and allow the public to judge for themselves, for better or worse. After all that is the essence of democracy and free speech.
Posted by: Oxford Crusader, Oxford on 8:34pm Sat 24 Nov 07
It's hardly worth getting too hot under the collar over this, because the Home Office will almost certainly instruct Thames Valley Police to pull the plug on it, on public order grounds.
The far left UAF will claim a victory of sorts. It will be a pyrrhic victory because they will have exposed themselves, in the eyes of most people, as the undemocratic, anti-British red hooligans they really are, which will lead to further loss of membership.
If the debate remains scheduled, their only real hope of preventing it would be if enough Labour MPs, councillors, TU leaders and their cohorts demonstrate with sufficient force to prevent it taking place. But being very chary most of them will say, why keep dogs and bark for them?
Debate, or no debate, this must be, in terms of media exposure, a total win-win situation for the BNP.
It's hardly worth getting too hot under the collar over this, because the Home Office will almost certainly instruct Thames Valley Police to pull the plug on it, on public order grounds.
The far left UAF will claim a victory of sorts. It will be a pyrrhic victory because they will have exposed themselves, in the eyes of most people, as the undemocratic, anti-British red hooligans they really are, which will lead to further loss of membership.
If the debate remains scheduled, their only real hope of preventing it would be if enough Labour MPs, councillors, TU leaders and their cohorts demonstrate with sufficient force to prevent it taking place. But being very chary most of them will say, why keep dogs and bark for them?
Debate, or no debate, this must be, in terms of media exposure, a total win-win situation for the BNP.
Posted by: chuckitsmithers, Oxford on 8:44pm Sat 24 Nov 07
[quote]And why do lefties always boast of feeling 'ashamed' of things they personally had nothing to do with?[/quote]
Good question, since it seems to imply a collective guilt which can only arise from some bond or other which does not arise from opinions or beliefs. The only such bond that really fits the bill is blood ties.
In their own terms leftists are 'racists'-just like everyone else.
And why do lefties always boast of feeling 'ashamed' of things they personally had nothing to do with?
Good question, since it seems to imply a collective guilt which can only arise from some bond or other which does not arise from opinions or beliefs. The only such bond that really fits the bill is blood ties.
In their own terms leftists are 'racists'-just like everyone else.
Oxford University. The words say it all.The students have not been exposed to the real world, unfortunately.The "Daddy bought me this land" types should move to the "enriched" areas and see for themselves whats happening.I dont really have much time for Irving,although he is an undoubted expert,and the best, in WW2 history.Griffin is different. His party is bravely facing the pure hate of the Left ,with their violence and intimidation you`d expect in a third-world country or dictatorship. Personally, I think this will be a disaster as the left-leaning anti democratic press will cover the "labour party-funded" demo and will appear to show the BNP are not wanted anywhere.
Oxford University. The words say it all.The students have not been exposed to the real world, unfortunately.The "Daddy bought me this land" types should move to the "enriched" areas and see for themselves whats happening.I dont really have much time for Irving,although he is an undoubted expert,and the best, in WW2 history.Griffin is different. His party is bravely facing the pure hate of the Left ,with their violence and intimidation you`d expect in a third-world country or dictatorship. Personally, I think this will be a disaster as the left-leaning anti democratic press will cover the "labour party-funded" demo and will appear to show the BNP are not wanted anywhere.
BRITISH PEOPLE KNOW YOUR RIGHTS
"UN Declaration of Indigenous Rights of Indigenous Peoples
As adopted by the General Assembly on 13th September 2007.
Includes :
Article 7.2 "Indigenous peoples have the collective right to live in freedom, peace and security as distinct peoples"
Article 8.1 "Indigenous peoples and individuals have the right not to be subjected to forced assimilation or destruction of their culture."
Article 8.2 "States shall provide effective mechanisms for prevention of, and redress for:
(a) Any action which has the aim or effect of depriving them of their integrity as distinct peoples, or of their cultural values or ethnic identities;
(b) Any action which has the aim or effect of dispossessing them of their lands, territories or resources;
(d) Any form of forced assimilation or integration;
BRITISH PEOPLE KNOW YOUR RIGHTS
"UN Declaration of Indigenous Rights of Indigenous Peoples
As adopted by the General Assembly on 13th September 2007.
Includes :
Article 7.2 "Indigenous peoples have the collective right to live in freedom, peace and security as distinct peoples"
Article 8.1 "Indigenous peoples and individuals have the right not to be subjected to forced assimilation or destruction of their culture."
Article 8.2 "States shall provide effective mechanisms for prevention of, and redress for:
(a) Any action which has the aim or effect of depriving them of their integrity as distinct peoples, or of their cultural values or ethnic identities;
(b) Any action which has the aim or effect of dispossessing them of their lands, territories or resources;
(d) Any form of forced assimilation or integration;
Posted by: Gerry Gabletwit, Witney on 8:50pm Sat 24 Nov 07
Britain is a democracy as such providing someone does not encite violance aginst someone they should be free to say what they like.
The miniscule Socialist Workers Party front group UAF (Unite Againt Freedom) should all be warned by the police that their threats against a legal, peacefull meeting will not be tolerated. If these Trotskyists do not like the concept of free speech then I suggest they pack their backs and move to North Korea or Cuba
Britain is a democracy as such providing someone does not encite violance aginst someone they should be free to say what they like.
The miniscule Socialist Workers Party front group UAF (Unite Againt Freedom) should all be warned by the police that their threats against a legal, peacefull meeting will not be tolerated. If these Trotskyists do not like the concept of free speech then I suggest they pack their backs and move to North Korea or Cuba
Posted by: Lib-Errol, Oxford on 8:51pm Sat 24 Nov 07
Don't want to stray from the subject, but i wonder what the BNP would prefer,
Mr A- A paedofile who can trace his British Herritage back 100's of years.
OR
Mr B- An immigrant who is polite, law abiding and hard working.
Don't want to stray from the subject, but i wonder what the BNP would prefer,
Mr A- A paedofile who can trace his British Herritage back 100's of years.
OR
Mr B- An immigrant who is polite, law abiding and hard working.
Posted by: White Aryan Avenger Lite, Billericay on 8:55pm Sat 24 Nov 07
your all fools cant u see your own nation BRITIAN is being dessimated + brought 2 its knee by intolerrant PC marxits + UNCONTROLED COLORED IMIGRATOIN i say thank god 4 nick grifin brave wise man sage prophet seer lawgiver magus demigod avatar iluminatus new messiah mystic nexus of unniverse!!!!!!!!!!
your all fools cant u see your own nation BRITIAN is being dessimated + brought 2 its knee by intolerrant PC marxits + UNCONTROLED COLORED IMIGRATOIN i say thank god 4 nick grifin brave wise man sage prophet seer lawgiver magus demigod avatar iluminatus new messiah mystic nexus of unniverse!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Lib-Errol, Oxford on 9:03pm Sat 24 Nov 07
[quote][bold]Britishness[/bold] wrote:
Lefties are racist towards British people. How's that for a comparison people?[/quote] i do not dislike racist Brits because they are British, i dis like them because of their small minded and rediculous views
Britishness wrote:
Lefties are racist towards British people. How's that for a comparison people?
i do not dislike racist Brits because they are British, i dis like them because of their small minded and rediculous views
Posted by: Britishness, Oxford on 9:04pm Sat 24 Nov 07
[quote][bold]White Aryan Avenger Lite[/bold] wrote:
your all fools cant u see your own nation BRITIAN is being dessimated + brought 2 its knee by intolerrant PC marxits + UNCONTROLED COLORED IMIGRATOIN i say thank god 4 nick grifin brave wise man sage prophet seer lawgiver magus demigod avatar iluminatus new messiah mystic nexus of unniverse!!!!!!!!!![/quote] No the ignorant lefties apparently can't. They want a mix of about 200 different cultures in every country. This cannot be achieved and leads to disturbances (I wouldn't bet against one on Monday night), isolation and the breakdown of national pride for the country concerned. Keep Britain for British people that's whom it was intended for.
White Aryan Avenger Lite wrote:
your all fools cant u see your own nation BRITIAN is being dessimated + brought 2 its knee by intolerrant PC marxits + UNCONTROLED COLORED IMIGRATOIN i say thank god 4 nick grifin brave wise man sage prophet seer lawgiver magus demigod avatar iluminatus new messiah mystic nexus of unniverse!!!!!!!!!!
No the ignorant lefties apparently can't. They want a mix of about 200 different cultures in every country. This cannot be achieved and leads to disturbances (I wouldn't bet against one on Monday night), isolation and the breakdown of national pride for the country concerned. Keep Britain for British people that's whom it was intended for.
Posted by: Britishness, Oxford on 9:05pm Sat 24 Nov 07
[quote][bold]Lib-Errol[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Britishness[/bold] wrote: Lefties are racist towards British people. How's that for a comparison people?[/quote] i do not dislike racist Brits because they are British, i dis like them because of their small minded and rediculous views[/quote] This post shows your intelligence. "Rediculous" you wrote.
Lib-Errol wrote:
Britishness wrote: Lefties are racist towards British people. How's that for a comparison people?
i do not dislike racist Brits because they are British, i dis like them because of their small minded and rediculous views
This post shows your intelligence. "Rediculous" you wrote.
Posted by: Lib-Errol, Oxford on 9:08pm Sat 24 Nov 07
[quote][bold]Right is Bright[/bold] wrote:
Lib-Errol, your are anti-British. HOW DARE you put foreigners before our own people![/quote] sorry for believing that british sex offenders are more of a threat in britain than hard working foreigners
Right is Bright wrote:
Lib-Errol, your are anti-British. HOW DARE you put foreigners before our own people!
sorry for believing that british sex offenders are more of a threat in britain than hard working foreigners
immigrants `not working` figures by country of origin
institute for public policy research 2007
Somalia 81% (muslims)
Turkey 59% (muslims - EU membership endorsed by Labour)
Bangladesh 56% (muslims)
Pakistan 55% (muslims)
Iran 48% (muslims)
Cyprus 32% (EU)
Jamaica 31%
China 31%
Portugal 30% (EU)
India 29%
Poland 15% (EU)
Austrailia 11%
council/social housing taken by immigrants
Somalia 80%
Turkey 49%
Bangladesh 41%
Portugal 40%
Jamaica 35%
Iran 33%
Zimbabwe 20%
Cyprus 16%
Pakistan 15%
China 9%
Poland 8%
Australia 5%
immigrants `not working` figures by country of origin
institute for public policy research 2007
Somalia 81% (muslims)
Turkey 59% (muslims - EU membership endorsed by Labour)
Bangladesh 56% (muslims)
Pakistan 55% (muslims)
Iran 48% (muslims)
Cyprus 32% (EU)
Jamaica 31%
China 31%
Portugal 30% (EU)
India 29%
Poland 15% (EU)
Austrailia 11%
council/social housing taken by immigrants
Somalia 80%
Turkey 49%
Bangladesh 41%
Portugal 40%
Jamaica 35%
Iran 33%
Zimbabwe 20%
Cyprus 16%
Pakistan 15%
China 9%
Poland 8%
Australia 5%
[quote][bold]Lib-Errol[/bold] wrote:
Don't want to stray from the subject, but i wonder what the BNP would prefer,
Mr A- A paedofile who can trace his British Herritage back 100's of years.
OR
Mr B- An immigrant who is polite, law abiding and hard working.
[/quote] So you think all of the British race are Paedos?
This is nothing more than racial hatred.
Lib-Errol wrote:
Don't want to stray from the subject, but i wonder what the BNP would prefer,
Mr A- A paedofile who can trace his British Herritage back 100's of years.
OR
Mr B- An immigrant who is polite, law abiding and hard working.
Posted by: Britishness, Oxford on 9:13pm Sat 24 Nov 07
[quote][bold]Lib-Errol[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Right is Bright[/bold] wrote: Lib-Errol, your are anti-British. HOW DARE you put foreigners before our own people![/quote] sorry for believing that british sex offenders are more of a threat in britain than hard working foreigners[/quote] Lib-Errol, look at these stats taken from the Sun, you ignorant, anti-British pillock.
Lib-Errol wrote:
Right is Bright wrote: Lib-Errol, your are anti-British. HOW DARE you put foreigners before our own people!
sorry for believing that british sex offenders are more of a threat in britain than hard working foreigners
Lib-Errol, look at these stats taken from the Sun, you ignorant, anti-British pillock.
Posted by: Liberal and proud, Oxford on 9:15pm Sat 24 Nov 07
I haven't a clue what gives me this impression... but I get the feeling that this comment back section is being used as a BNP PR stunt! This is now a forum for hatred. Stop citing rubbish about Britishness. Would that be Saxon, Norman, Celtic or Viking?! I'll keep all hardworking immigrants who work hard and make this country successful thank you very much. Our modern Britain is, and will remain a vibrant multi-cultural society. Long may it remain so.
Long may all of you maintain the right to speak. And for you all to be given enough rope to show how laughable your comments are.
I haven't a clue what gives me this impression... but I get the feeling that this comment back section is being used as a BNP PR stunt! This is now a forum for hatred. Stop citing rubbish about Britishness. Would that be Saxon, Norman, Celtic or Viking?! I'll keep all hardworking immigrants who work hard and make this country successful thank you very much. Our modern Britain is, and will remain a vibrant multi-cultural society. Long may it remain so.
Long may all of you maintain the right to speak. And for you all to be given enough rope to show how laughable your comments are.
Posted by: Britishness, Britain for Britons on 9:15pm Sat 24 Nov 07
[quote][bold]Britishness[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Lib-Errol[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Right is Bright[/bold] wrote: Lib-Errol, your are anti-British. HOW DARE you put foreigners before our own people![/quote] sorry for believing that british sex offenders are more of a threat in britain than hard working foreigners[/quote] Lib-Errol, look at these stats taken from the Sun, you ignorant, anti-British pillock.[/quote] Intended for previous post:
"ROMANIAN gangs commit 80 to 85 per cent of all cashpoint crime in Britain"
Britishness wrote:
Lib-Errol wrote:
Right is Bright wrote: Lib-Errol, your are anti-British. HOW DARE you put foreigners before our own people!
sorry for believing that british sex offenders are more of a threat in britain than hard working foreigners
Lib-Errol, look at these stats taken from the Sun, you ignorant, anti-British pillock.
Intended for previous post:
"ROMANIAN gangs commit 80 to 85 per cent of all cashpoint crime in Britain"
Posted by: Lib-Errol, Oxford on 9:18pm Sat 24 Nov 07
i do not belive all brits are paedos, i am just unsure if the BNP belive there are any worse crimes than being 'not british'(if somehow that is a crime??)
i do not belive all brits are paedos, i am just unsure if the BNP belive there are any worse crimes than being 'not british'(if somehow that is a crime??)
Posted by: Lib-Errol, Oxford on 9:20pm Sat 24 Nov 07
[quote][bold]Liberal and proud[/bold] wrote:
I haven't a clue what gives me this impression... but I get the feeling that this comment back section is being used as a BNP PR stunt! This is now a forum for hatred. Stop citing rubbish about Britishness. Would that be Saxon, Norman, Celtic or Viking?! I'll keep all hardworking immigrants who work hard and make this country successful thank you very much. Our modern Britain is, and will remain a vibrant multi-cultural society. Long may it remain so. Long may all of you maintain the right to speak. And for you all to be given enough rope to show how laughable your comments are. [/quote] HOO RAH some sense at last
Liberal and proud wrote:
I haven't a clue what gives me this impression... but I get the feeling that this comment back section is being used as a BNP PR stunt! This is now a forum for hatred. Stop citing rubbish about Britishness. Would that be Saxon, Norman, Celtic or Viking?! I'll keep all hardworking immigrants who work hard and make this country successful thank you very much. Our modern Britain is, and will remain a vibrant multi-cultural society. Long may it remain so. Long may all of you maintain the right to speak. And for you all to be given enough rope to show how laughable your comments are.
Posted by: Britishness, Oxford on 9:21pm Sat 24 Nov 07
[quote][bold]Liberal and proud[/bold] wrote:
I haven't a clue what gives me this impression... but I get the feeling that this comment back section is being used as a BNP PR stunt! This is now a forum for hatred. Stop citing rubbish about Britishness. Would that be Saxon, Norman, Celtic or Viking?! I'll keep all hardworking immigrants who work hard and make this country successful thank you very much. Our modern Britain is, and will remain a vibrant multi-cultural society. Long may it remain so. Long may all of you maintain the right to speak. And for you all to be given enough rope to show how laughable your comments are. [/quote] I think you suggested in a previous post that immigration is "refreshing". The only refreshment I get is seeing the BNP rising swiftly to victory. With any luck you soft, anti-British Liberal scum will sod off to Jamaica or somewhere and let us be British in our own country.
Liberal and proud wrote:
I haven't a clue what gives me this impression... but I get the feeling that this comment back section is being used as a BNP PR stunt! This is now a forum for hatred. Stop citing rubbish about Britishness. Would that be Saxon, Norman, Celtic or Viking?! I'll keep all hardworking immigrants who work hard and make this country successful thank you very much. Our modern Britain is, and will remain a vibrant multi-cultural society. Long may it remain so. Long may all of you maintain the right to speak. And for you all to be given enough rope to show how laughable your comments are.
I think you suggested in a previous post that immigration is "refreshing". The only refreshment I get is seeing the BNP rising swiftly to victory. With any luck you soft, anti-British Liberal scum will sod off to Jamaica or somewhere and let us be British in our own country.
Posted by: Almighty God, in Heaven on 9:21pm Sat 24 Nov 07
[quote][bold]Britishness[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]White Aryan Avenger Lite[/bold] wrote: your all fools cant u see your own nation BRITIAN is being dessimated + brought 2 its knee by intolerrant PC marxits + UNCONTROLED COLORED IMIGRATOIN i say thank god 4 nick grifin brave wise man sage prophet seer lawgiver magus demigod avatar iluminatus new messiah mystic nexus of unniverse!!!!!!!!!![/quote] No the ignorant lefties apparently can't. They want a mix of about 200 different cultures in every country. This cannot be achieved and leads to disturbances (I wouldn't bet against one on Monday night), isolation and the breakdown of national pride for the country concerned. Keep Britain for British people that's whom it was intended for.[/quote] I wouldn't normally butt into a discussion of this kind, but I must make the point that our good friend "Britishness" is absolutely right. Britain was indeed intended for the British people - that was precisely the idea I had in my mind when I created it, squillions of years before the human race existed. So all you non-British chappies who seem to be hanging about can jolly well go home, because quite frankly you're mucking up the cosmic dance of joy (which I like to perform every evening with my best chum "Britishness" in the privacy of his hovel, and ever so cute he looks in his sequinned cocktail dress).
Britishness wrote:
White Aryan Avenger Lite wrote: your all fools cant u see your own nation BRITIAN is being dessimated + brought 2 its knee by intolerrant PC marxits + UNCONTROLED COLORED IMIGRATOIN i say thank god 4 nick grifin brave wise man sage prophet seer lawgiver magus demigod avatar iluminatus new messiah mystic nexus of unniverse!!!!!!!!!!
No the ignorant lefties apparently can't. They want a mix of about 200 different cultures in every country. This cannot be achieved and leads to disturbances (I wouldn't bet against one on Monday night), isolation and the breakdown of national pride for the country concerned. Keep Britain for British people that's whom it was intended for.
I wouldn't normally butt into a discussion of this kind, but I must make the point that our good friend "Britishness" is absolutely right. Britain was indeed intended for the British people - that was precisely the idea I had in my mind when I created it, squillions of years before the human race existed. So all you non-British chappies who seem to be hanging about can jolly well go home, because quite frankly you're mucking up the cosmic dance of joy (which I like to perform every evening with my best chum "Britishness" in the privacy of his hovel, and ever so cute he looks in his sequinned cocktail dress).
Posted by: Britishness, Oxford on 9:29pm Sat 24 Nov 07
[quote][bold]Lib-Errol[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Liberal and proud[/bold] wrote: I haven't a clue what gives me this impression... but I get the feeling that this comment back section is being used as a BNP PR stunt! This is now a forum for hatred. Stop citing rubbish about Britishness. Would that be Saxon, Norman, Celtic or Viking?! I'll keep all hardworking immigrants who work hard and make this country successful thank you very much. Our modern Britain is, and will remain a vibrant multi-cultural society. Long may it remain so. Long may all of you maintain the right to speak. And for you all to be given enough rope to show how laughable your comments are. [/quote] HOO RAH some sense at last[/quote] What about "British jobs for British people"?
If you had founded a club or something and had long-standing members you wouldn't want a mass invasion of outsiders coming in and taking your roles, would you? Multiculturalism is very similar to this and has been fuelled by Labour brainwashing propaganda. It's depleting our identity as a nation. Do you remember the good old days of Christmas and other festivals when the whole country joined in the festivities? This united the nation and brought great pride. Everything shut down practically save for the emergency services and a few other token businesses. You don't get this level of pride with multiculturalism. It just doesn't mix.
Lib-Errol wrote:
Liberal and proud wrote: I haven't a clue what gives me this impression... but I get the feeling that this comment back section is being used as a BNP PR stunt! This is now a forum for hatred. Stop citing rubbish about Britishness. Would that be Saxon, Norman, Celtic or Viking?! I'll keep all hardworking immigrants who work hard and make this country successful thank you very much. Our modern Britain is, and will remain a vibrant multi-cultural society. Long may it remain so. Long may all of you maintain the right to speak. And for you all to be given enough rope to show how laughable your comments are.
HOO RAH some sense at last
What about "British jobs for British people"?
If you had founded a club or something and had long-standing members you wouldn't want a mass invasion of outsiders coming in and taking your roles, would you? Multiculturalism is very similar to this and has been fuelled by Labour brainwashing propaganda. It's depleting our identity as a nation. Do you remember the good old days of Christmas and other festivals when the whole country joined in the festivities? This united the nation and brought great pride. Everything shut down practically save for the emergency services and a few other token businesses. You don't get this level of pride with multiculturalism. It just doesn't mix.
HOW THE GOVERNMENT HAS DECLARED WAR ON WHITE ENGLISH PEOPLE
Daily Express by Leo McKinstry
http://www.express.c
o.uk/ourcomments/vie
w/15991
some quotes from the article:
"Reverse discrimination is rife in the state machine"
"In the name of cultural diversity Labour attacks anything that smacks
of Englishness"
"The main stream public are treated with contempt, their rights ignored, their history trashed"
"It is a bitter irony that the Labour governemnt that works itself up into such a synthetic rage over racial prejudice should practice overt discrimination on an epic scale"
HOW THE GOVERNMENT HAS DECLARED WAR ON WHITE ENGLISH PEOPLE
Daily Express by Leo McKinstry
http://www.express.c
o.uk/ourcomments/vie
w/15991
some quotes from the article:
"Reverse discrimination is rife in the state machine"
"In the name of cultural diversity Labour attacks anything that smacks
of Englishness"
"The main stream public are treated with contempt, their rights ignored, their history trashed"
"It is a bitter irony that the Labour governemnt that works itself up into such a synthetic rage over racial prejudice should practice overt discrimination on an epic scale"
Posted by: Britishness, Oxford on 9:40pm Sat 24 Nov 07
Liberal and proud, what hope do we hold for our national football team in the future? Where are we going to get our players, or hadn't that crossed your unintelligent left mind?
Liberal and proud, what hope do we hold for our national football team in the future? Where are we going to get our players, or hadn't that crossed your unintelligent left mind?
Posted by: Lib-Errol, Oxford on 9:44pm Sat 24 Nov 07
[quote][bold]Britishness[/bold] wrote:
Liberal and proud, what hope do we hold for our national football team in the future? Where are we going to get our players, or hadn't that crossed your unintelligent left mind?[/quote] do your beliefs not mean that all black english footballers should be banned?
Britishness wrote:
Liberal and proud, what hope do we hold for our national football team in the future? Where are we going to get our players, or hadn't that crossed your unintelligent left mind?
do your beliefs not mean that all black english footballers should be banned?
Posted by: Britishness, Oxford on 9:46pm Sat 24 Nov 07
[quote][bold]Lib-Errol[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Britishness[/bold] wrote: Liberal and proud, what hope do we hold for our national football team in the future? Where are we going to get our players, or hadn't that crossed your unintelligent left mind?[/quote] do your beliefs not mean that all black english footballers should be banned? [/quote] There are blacks in the BNP.
Lib-Errol wrote:
Britishness wrote: Liberal and proud, what hope do we hold for our national football team in the future? Where are we going to get our players, or hadn't that crossed your unintelligent left mind?
do your beliefs not mean that all black english footballers should be banned?
Posted by: Britishness, Oxford on 9:48pm Sat 24 Nov 07
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Posted by: Truthful, London on 9:49pm Sat 24 Nov 07
Crumbs it sounds like `racist' Oxford to me, and for someone who lived there for 35 years I never thought that it was that bad. Obviously the large number of white women there who for decades have chosen black men over white men aren't contributing to this debate. Perhaps its their upset former partners. HA HA HA[bold]bold[/bold]
Crumbs it sounds like `racist' Oxford to me, and for someone who lived there for 35 years I never thought that it was that bad. Obviously the large number of white women there who for decades have chosen black men over white men aren't contributing to this debate. Perhaps its their upset former partners. HA HA HA
Posted by: Britishness, Oxford on 9:59pm Sat 24 Nov 07
[quote][bold]Truthful[/bold] wrote:
Crumbs it sounds like `racist' Oxford to me, and for someone who lived there for 35 years I never thought that it was that bad. Obviously the large number of white women there who for decades have chosen black men over white men aren't contributing to this debate. Perhaps its their upset former partners. HA HA HA[bold]bold[/bold] [/quote] Consider these, the BNP policies:
"WHAT WE STAND FOR
IMMIGRATION - time to say ENOUGH!
EUROPE - back to British independence!
LAW AND ORDER - crack down on crime!
ECONOMY - British workers first!
EDUCATION - discipline, standards, achievement!
AGRICULTURE - quality before quantity!
HEALTH - first-class healthcare for all!
TRANSPORT - time to invest!
ENVIRONMENT - a cleaner greener future
FOREIGN AID - time to spend our money on our own people!
PENSIONERS - pensioners before asylum seekers!
NORTHERN IRELAND - an end to sectarianism!
DEFENCE - no more cuts!
FOREIGN AFFAIRS - Britain's interests first!
DEMOCRACY - letting the people decide!
IMMIGRATION - time to say ENOUGH!
On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years. To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question. We will abolish the 'positive discrimination' schemes that have made white Britons second-class citizens. We will also clamp down on the flood of 'asylum seekers', all of whom are either bogus or can find refuge much nearer their home countries.
EUROPE - back to British independence!
We are opposed to the Single European Currency, and support the overwhelming majority of the British people in their desire to keep the Pound and our traditional weights and measures. At the same time, we are for the best possible relationship with our European neighbours and believe that the nations of Europe should be free to trade and cooperate whenever it is mutually beneficial, though without being forced into a political and economic straitjacket - political unification. Accordingly, we stand for British withdrawal from the European Union. In place of the EU, we intend to aim towards greater national self-sufficiency, and to work to restore Britain's family and trading ties with Australia, Canada and New Zealand, and to trade with the rest of the world as it suits us. Following our withdrawal from the EU, the BNP will use the £43 million per day net contribution Britain at present makes to the European Union to fund many far more useful projects at home.
LAW AND ORDER - crack down on crime!
The BNP will crack down on crime and restore public safety and confidence. We will free the police and courts from the politically correct straitjacket that is stopping them from doing their job properly. The liberal fixation with the 'rights' of criminals must be replaced by concern for the rights of victims, and the right of innocent people not to become victims. We support the re-introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals, and the restoration of capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute, as by DNA evidence or being caught red-handed.
ECONOMY - British workers first!
Globalisation, with its export of jobs to the Third World, is bringing ruin and unemployment to British industries and the communities that depend on them. Accordingly, the BNP calls for the selective exclusion of foreign-made goods from British markets and the reduction of foreign imports. We will ensure that our manufactured goods are, wherever possible, produced in British factories, employing British workers. When this is done, unemployment in this country will be brought to an end, and secure, well-paid employment will flourish, at last getting our people back to work and ending the waste and injustice of having more than 4 million people in a hidden army of the unemployed concealed by Labour's statistical fiddles. We further believe that British industry, commerce, land and other economic and natural assets belong in the final analysis to the British nation and people. To that end we will restore our economy and land to British ownership. We also call for preference in the job market to be given to native Britons. We will take active steps to break up the socially, economically and politically damaging monopolies now being established by the supermarket giants. Finally we will seek to give British workers a stake in the success and prosperity of the enterprises whose profits their labour creates by encouraging worker shareholder and co-operative schemes.
EDUCATION - discipline, standards, achievement!
We are against the 'trendy' teaching methods that have made Britain one of the most poorly educated nations in Europe. We will end the practice of politically correct indoctrination in all its guises and we will restore discipline in the classroom, give authority back to teachers and put far greater emphasis on training young people in the industrial and technological skills necessary in the modern world. We will also seek to instill in our young people knowledge of and pride in the history, cultures and heritage of the native peoples of Britain.
AGRICULTURE - quality before quantity!
We see a strong, healthy agriculture sector as vital to the country. Britain's farming industry will be encouraged to produce a much greater part of the nation's need in food products. Priority will be switched from quantity to quality, as we move from competing in a global economy to maximum self-sufficiency for Britain. We will ensure a major shift to healthier and more sustainable organic farming. We are pledged to ensure the restoration of Britain's once great fishing industry with the reimposition of the former exclusion zones around our coast.
HEALTH - first-class healthcare for all!
We are wholly committed to a free, fully funded National Health Service for all British citizens. We will revitalise the Health Service by boosting staff and bed numbers, slashing unnecessary bureaucracy and by addressing the root cause of low recruitment and retention - low pay. We will see to it that no money is given in foreign aid while our own hospitals are short of beds and the staff to run them. More emphasis must be placed on healthy living with greater understanding of sickness prevention through physical exercise, a healthier environment and improved diets.
TRANSPORT - time to invest!
Increased investment is needed in Britain's public transport system to bring it up to the highest standards in the world. The fiasco of rail privatisation with different companies running services and track leading to higher fares and lower safety also needs to be resolved. Congestion of our towns and cities must be eased by the provision of greater incentives to use rail and bus transport instead of private cars. The first step is to end the crime and squalor that puts so many people off public transport. Motorists must not be made the scapegoats for government failure. Fuel tax should be cut, motorway speed limits raised, and hidden speed cameras should be banned. Far more must be done to encourage the development and use of cleaner fuels.
ENVIRONMENT - a cleaner, greener future!
Our ideal for Britain is that of a clean, beautiful country, free of pollution in all its forms. We will enforce standards to curb those practices, whether by business or the individual, which cause environmental damage. "The polluter pays to clean up the mess" must become a fact of life, not an electioneering slogan. In towns we would work to replace the brutalist modernism of 1960s-style-architec
ture with a blend of traditional local styles and materials and ensure that developments take place on a more human scale.
FOREIGN AID - time to spend our money on our own people!
We reject the idea that Britain must forever be obliged to subsidise the incompetence and corruption of Third World states by supplying them with financial aid. We will link foreign aid with our voluntary resettlement policy, whereby those nations taking significant numbers of people back to their homelands will need cash to help absorb those returning. The billions of pounds saved every year by this policy will also be reallocated to vital services in Britain.
PENSIONERS - pensioners before asylum seekers!
The conditions in which many of Britain's old people are forced to live are a national disgrace. We are pledged to ensure that all our old folk are able to live in comfortable homes, and will restore the earnings link with pensions. Elderly people who have paid a lifetime of taxes and reared families should not have to sell their homes to pay for care.
NORTHERN IRELAND - an end to sectarianism!
Britain has shamefully allowed the terrorists in N.I. to come close to winning when the IRA could have been destroyed years ago. Government weakness has led to hundreds of deaths and given those same terrorists a share in government. We would end all attempts to force the people of Northern Ireland to accept foreign interference in their affairs and deal with terrorism - from whatever side - once and for all. No one with links to a terrorist organisation that refuses to lay down its arms should be allowed to enter government. We would abolish state-supported segregation in education. In the long run, we wish to end the conflict in Ireland by welcoming Eire as well as Ulster as equal partners in a federation of the nations of the British Isles.
DEFENCE - no more cuts!
Successive cuts in defence spending have left Britain's armed forces perilously weak. We will boost Britain's armed forces to ensure that they are able to deal with any emergency, and defend our homeland and our independence. We will bring our troops back from Germany and withdraw from NATO, since recent political developments make both commitments obsolete. We will close all foreign military bases on British soil, and refuse to risk British lives in meddling 'peace-keeping' missions in parts of the world where no British interests are at stake - a position of armed neutrality. We will also restore national service for our young with the option of civil or military service.
FOREIGN AFFAIRS - Britain's interests first!
Britain's foreign relations should be determined by the protection of our own national interest and not by our like or dislike of other nations' internal politics. We would have no quarrel with any nation that does not threaten British interests. We will maintain an independent foreign policy of our own, and not a spineless subservience to the USA, the 'international community', or any other country.
DEMOCRACY - letting the people decide!
The British people invented modern Parliamentary democracy. Yet in recent years the British people have been denied their democratic rights. On issue after issue, the views of the majority of British people have been ignored and overridden by a Politically Correct 'élite' which thinks it knows best. On immigration, on Capital Punishment, on the surrender of British sovereignty to the EU and in numerous other areas, democracy has been absent as Labour, Tories and Lib-Dems conspire in election after election to offer the British people no real choice on such vital issues. The BNP exists to give the British people, that choice, and thus to restore and defend the basic democratic rights we have all been denied. We favour more democracy, not less, not just at national but at regional and local level. Power should be devolved to the lowest level possible so that local communities can make decisions which affect them. We will remove legal curbs on freedom of speech imposed by successive Governments over the last 40 years. We will implement a Bill of Rights guaranteeing fundamental freedoms to the British people. We will ensure that ordinary British people have real democratic power over their own lives and that Government, local and national, is truly accountable to the people who elect it."
This will give us everything the lefties have taken away like discipline in schools: children now run riot in schools and there is hardly any emphasis on the white man even though he has lived there for generations. Time to give these policies a try.
Truthful wrote:
Crumbs it sounds like `racist' Oxford to me, and for someone who lived there for 35 years I never thought that it was that bad. Obviously the large number of white women there who for decades have chosen black men over white men aren't contributing to this debate. Perhaps its their upset former partners. HA HA HA
Consider these, the BNP policies:
"WHAT WE STAND FOR
IMMIGRATION - time to say ENOUGH!
EUROPE - back to British independence!
LAW AND ORDER - crack down on crime!
ECONOMY - British workers first!
EDUCATION - discipline, standards, achievement!
AGRICULTURE - quality before quantity!
HEALTH - first-class healthcare for all!
TRANSPORT - time to invest!
ENVIRONMENT - a cleaner greener future
FOREIGN AID - time to spend our money on our own people!
PENSIONERS - pensioners before asylum seekers!
NORTHERN IRELAND - an end to sectarianism!
DEFENCE - no more cuts!
FOREIGN AFFAIRS - Britain's interests first!
DEMOCRACY - letting the people decide!
IMMIGRATION - time to say ENOUGH!
On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years. To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question. We will abolish the 'positive discrimination' schemes that have made white Britons second-class citizens. We will also clamp down on the flood of 'asylum seekers', all of whom are either bogus or can find refuge much nearer their home countries.
EUROPE - back to British independence!
We are opposed to the Single European Currency, and support the overwhelming majority of the British people in their desire to keep the Pound and our traditional weights and measures. At the same time, we are for the best possible relationship with our European neighbours and believe that the nations of Europe should be free to trade and cooperate whenever it is mutually beneficial, though without being forced into a political and economic straitjacket - political unification. Accordingly, we stand for British withdrawal from the European Union. In place of the EU, we intend to aim towards greater national self-sufficiency, and to work to restore Britain's family and trading ties with Australia, Canada and New Zealand, and to trade with the rest of the world as it suits us. Following our withdrawal from the EU, the BNP will use the £43 million per day net contribution Britain at present makes to the European Union to fund many far more useful projects at home.
LAW AND ORDER - crack down on crime!
The BNP will crack down on crime and restore public safety and confidence. We will free the police and courts from the politically correct straitjacket that is stopping them from doing their job properly. The liberal fixation with the 'rights' of criminals must be replaced by concern for the rights of victims, and the right of innocent people not to become victims. We support the re-introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals, and the restoration of capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute, as by DNA evidence or being caught red-handed.
ECONOMY - British workers first!
Globalisation, with its export of jobs to the Third World, is bringing ruin and unemployment to British industries and the communities that depend on them. Accordingly, the BNP calls for the selective exclusion of foreign-made goods from British markets and the reduction of foreign imports. We will ensure that our manufactured goods are, wherever possible, produced in British factories, employing British workers. When this is done, unemployment in this country will be brought to an end, and secure, well-paid employment will flourish, at last getting our people back to work and ending the waste and injustice of having more than 4 million people in a hidden army of the unemployed concealed by Labour's statistical fiddles. We further believe that British industry, commerce, land and other economic and natural assets belong in the final analysis to the British nation and people. To that end we will restore our economy and land to British ownership. We also call for preference in the job market to be given to native Britons. We will take active steps to break up the socially, economically and politically damaging monopolies now being established by the supermarket giants. Finally we will seek to give British workers a stake in the success and prosperity of the enterprises whose profits their labour creates by encouraging worker shareholder and co-operative schemes.
EDUCATION - discipline, standards, achievement!
We are against the 'trendy' teaching methods that have made Britain one of the most poorly educated nations in Europe. We will end the practice of politically correct indoctrination in all its guises and we will restore discipline in the classroom, give authority back to teachers and put far greater emphasis on training young people in the industrial and technological skills necessary in the modern world. We will also seek to instill in our young people knowledge of and pride in the history, cultures and heritage of the native peoples of Britain.
AGRICULTURE - quality before quantity!
We see a strong, healthy agriculture sector as vital to the country. Britain's farming industry will be encouraged to produce a much greater part of the nation's need in food products. Priority will be switched from quantity to quality, as we move from competing in a global economy to maximum self-sufficiency for Britain. We will ensure a major shift to healthier and more sustainable organic farming. We are pledged to ensure the restoration of Britain's once great fishing industry with the reimposition of the former exclusion zones around our coast.
HEALTH - first-class healthcare for all!
We are wholly committed to a free, fully funded National Health Service for all British citizens. We will revitalise the Health Service by boosting staff and bed numbers, slashing unnecessary bureaucracy and by addressing the root cause of low recruitment and retention - low pay. We will see to it that no money is given in foreign aid while our own hospitals are short of beds and the staff to run them. More emphasis must be placed on healthy living with greater understanding of sickness prevention through physical exercise, a healthier environment and improved diets.
TRANSPORT - time to invest!
Increased investment is needed in Britain's public transport system to bring it up to the highest standards in the world. The fiasco of rail privatisation with different companies running services and track leading to higher fares and lower safety also needs to be resolved. Congestion of our towns and cities must be eased by the provision of greater incentives to use rail and bus transport instead of private cars. The first step is to end the crime and squalor that puts so many people off public transport. Motorists must not be made the scapegoats for government failure. Fuel tax should be cut, motorway speed limits raised, and hidden speed cameras should be banned. Far more must be done to encourage the development and use of cleaner fuels.
ENVIRONMENT - a cleaner, greener future!
Our ideal for Britain is that of a clean, beautiful country, free of pollution in all its forms. We will enforce standards to curb those practices, whether by business or the individual, which cause environmental damage. "The polluter pays to clean up the mess" must become a fact of life, not an electioneering slogan. In towns we would work to replace the brutalist modernism of 1960s-style-architec
ture with a blend of traditional local styles and materials and ensure that developments take place on a more human scale.
FOREIGN AID - time to spend our money on our own people!
We reject the idea that Britain must forever be obliged to subsidise the incompetence and corruption of Third World states by supplying them with financial aid. We will link foreign aid with our voluntary resettlement policy, whereby those nations taking significant numbers of people back to their homelands will need cash to help absorb those returning. The billions of pounds saved every year by this policy will also be reallocated to vital services in Britain.
PENSIONERS - pensioners before asylum seekers!
The conditions in which many of Britain's old people are forced to live are a national disgrace. We are pledged to ensure that all our old folk are able to live in comfortable homes, and will restore the earnings link with pensions. Elderly people who have paid a lifetime of taxes and reared families should not have to sell their homes to pay for care.
NORTHERN IRELAND - an end to sectarianism!
Britain has shamefully allowed the terrorists in N.I. to come close to winning when the IRA could have been destroyed years ago. Government weakness has led to hundreds of deaths and given those same terrorists a share in government. We would end all attempts to force the people of Northern Ireland to accept foreign interference in their affairs and deal with terrorism - from whatever side - once and for all. No one with links to a terrorist organisation that refuses to lay down its arms should be allowed to enter government. We would abolish state-supported segregation in education. In the long run, we wish to end the conflict in Ireland by welcoming Eire as well as Ulster as equal partners in a federation of the nations of the British Isles.
DEFENCE - no more cuts!
Successive cuts in defence spending have left Britain's armed forces perilously weak. We will boost Britain's armed forces to ensure that they are able to deal with any emergency, and defend our homeland and our independence. We will bring our troops back from Germany and withdraw from NATO, since recent political developments make both commitments obsolete. We will close all foreign military bases on British soil, and refuse to risk British lives in meddling 'peace-keeping' missions in parts of the world where no British interests are at stake - a position of armed neutrality. We will also restore national service for our young with the option of civil or military service.
FOREIGN AFFAIRS - Britain's interests first!
Britain's foreign relations should be determined by the protection of our own national interest and not by our like or dislike of other nations' internal politics. We would have no quarrel with any nation that does not threaten British interests. We will maintain an independent foreign policy of our own, and not a spineless subservience to the USA, the 'international community', or any other country.
DEMOCRACY - letting the people decide!
The British people invented modern Parliamentary democracy. Yet in recent years the British people have been denied their democratic rights. On issue after issue, the views of the majority of British people have been ignored and overridden by a Politically Correct 'élite' which thinks it knows best. On immigration, on Capital Punishment, on the surrender of British sovereignty to the EU and in numerous other areas, democracy has been absent as Labour, Tories and Lib-Dems conspire in election after election to offer the British people no real choice on such vital issues. The BNP exists to give the British people, that choice, and thus to restore and defend the basic democratic rights we have all been denied. We favour more democracy, not less, not just at national but at regional and local level. Power should be devolved to the lowest level possible so that local co