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2:58pm Monday 1st September 2008
Union flags were waving and patriots belted out tunes as Cowley's version of Last Night of the Proms got under way.
A 100-strong crowd at St James' Church, Beauchamp Lane, quickly got into the spirit of the occasion on Saturday night as the church came alive with music and song.
Popular tunes including Land of Hope and Glory, Jerusalem and Rule Britannia were belted out and Union flags waved in time to the music.
Now the inaugural fundraiser looks set to become a regular event in the church's calendar.
Organiser Rosanne Butler said the evening was a fantastic success and would definitely take place again next year.
She said: "A lot of the audience joined in all the patriotic stuff and clapped along to Sailors' Hornpipe - it gets quicker and quicker and we all clapped."
Music was provided by the Jubilee Brass Band and church organists Brian Tidy and Patrick Gilday, with solo singers Elizabeth Bowler and Victoria Gilday.
The proms event was the brainchild of the Rev Howard Thornton who wanted to recreate the glitz and glamour of the Royal Albert Hall.
A Champagne buffet at St James' Church Centre started the evening and then it was off to the church for music and song.
Music from stage and screen filled the first half of the night and the finale featured traditional 'Last Night of the Proms' music.
Ms Butler said: "The supper before the event went beautifully and then we all went into church. It was the first time we had done the proms and everyone is saying already when are we going to have another one."
The church hopes to have raised about £400 from the evening.
natasha, witney says...
6:53pm Mon 1 Sep 08
Delroy, B.B.L says...
7:18pm Mon 1 Sep 08
A BLACK MAN, Blackbird leys says...
7:45pm Mon 1 Sep 08
Tom, says...
7:46pm Mon 1 Sep 08
natasha wrote:Yes Natasha these people really look like you typical national front members.....
this sort of flag waving makes me sick,this was nothing more than a glorified national front meeting.what racist bigots these prats are.
Tom, says...
7:51pm Mon 1 Sep 08
Delroy wrote:Delroy
They is no better than bnp,you get me.why did the old bill not stop this race? hate?
Tom, says...
7:55pm Mon 1 Sep 08
A BLACK MAN wrote:hehe.
Im very offended by this, you should keep your flags up in the attic's now not bring them out in public as this is no longer your country its a mixed country and should be renamed the blacklands, give it 100 years and you will not find a pure white person as we are here to mix the race up and in the end we will all be black or brown!
natasha, witney says...
8:34pm Mon 1 Sep 08
Tom wrote:First of all, i dont take drugs, thats a working class thing, and yes, i am british, although sometimes i wish i wasnt, with such racist, hateful bigots such as yourself, just look at the picture. The audience was hideously white, we are supposed to be a multicultural society now, I cant help but think all those white peole together WAVING FLAGS, to me this was no different or no better than a national front meeting. Something tells me you would know all about that.
natasha wrote: this sort of flag waving makes me sick,this was nothing more than a glorified national front meeting.what racist bigots these prats are.Yes Natasha these people really look like you typical national front members..... are you a crack-head or something? I guess you are not British.
delroy, B.B.L says...
9:11pm Mon 1 Sep 08
Tom wrote:I speak anyway i want, you get me, dis is how i speak, you clearly is a racist, and i'm reporting you to the oxford mail. What nazi party you from? I think dese people waving da flags is racist as you, you get me you scum bag racist nazi.
Delroy wrote: They is no better than bnp,you get me.why did the old bill not stop this race? hate?Delroy repeat after me... "they are no better". I am guessing that with a name like Delroy you are of carribean descent?. Good for you. The BNP exist and thrive because people like you and the comments you make cause outrage amongst the white community. It is not racist to wave the flag of England,what is racist is to ask the people of England NOT to wave their flag that was around long before the windrush sailed. Respect the locals and they will respect you.
sarah, oxford says...
9:46pm Mon 1 Sep 08
Mr Ison, England says...
11:13pm Mon 1 Sep 08
Mr Ison, Hangin' low. says...
11:24pm Mon 1 Sep 08
mr white, oxon says...
11:50pm Mon 1 Sep 08
Mr Ison, The Number 9 says...
12:15am Tue 2 Sep 08
Stout Yeoman, says...
8:02am Tue 2 Sep 08
kim, henley says...
9:18am Tue 2 Sep 08
sarah wrote:here is a b.n.p member when i see one.sarah how long have you been in the b.n.p then? you rotten apple
the only reason they were all white people waving thier flags as its only white people that are patriotic and care about thier country and thier roots!!! rule britannia! it cant be a bad country ..... everyone wants to **** well live here!!!!
sarah, oxford says...
9:52am Tue 2 Sep 08
fred, london says...
10:14am Tue 2 Sep 08
Mr Ison, England says...
11:41am Tue 2 Sep 08
fred, london says...
1:05pm Tue 2 Sep 08
Mr Ison wrote:? you have lost me!
They import millions of bowels.
Alan Page, says...
2:19pm Tue 2 Sep 08
Alan Page, says...
2:25pm Tue 2 Sep 08
sarah wrote:Even if what you say is true (and Thomas Hobbes believed man to be thoroughly rotten and corrupt and said that the existence of laws were needed because humanity would rape, murder, thieve and mutilate itself into extinction otherwise) do you really hold that such a state of affairs is right?
You may not have heard of George Steiner, but he is one of the cleverest men in Britain. A professor of comparative literature, 79 years old, his Jewish family emigrated from France in 1940. He lives and writes in Cambridge. And today he is in deep trouble with the multicultural lobby. Steiner has made headlines with remarks to a Spanish newspaper, discussing his new novel. Racism, he said, is inherent in everyone. Racial tolerance is only skin-deep. \'It is very easy to sit here in this room and say racism is horrible,\' he told his interviewer. \'But ask me the same thing if a Jamaican family moved next door with six children and they play reggae and rock music all day. \'Or if an estate agent comes to my house and tells me that because a Jamaican family has moved next door the value of my property has fallen through the floor. Ask me then!\' The usual suspects - race-relations bodies, Muslim groups, minority spokesmen - have denounced Steiner\'s remarks as \'offensive, cranky, lazy generalisations\'. Yet reading what he said, I found myself remembering a day at Heathrow more than 20 years ago. A heavenly cockney cleaner named Elsie Elmer worked for our family for almost 40 years. Elsie was a widow, a Londoner through and through. When she was 77, she suddenly announced that she could no longer endure life in Hammersmith, where on both sides of her little house Jamaican neighbours played music full-blast through the night, every night. More from Max Hastings...MAX HASTINGS: Superpower rivalry is once more a fact of life - and death 16/08/08MAX HASTINGS: Why I\'ll always be a happy camper (as long as there\'s a good hotel nearby!) 05/08/08MAX HASTINGS: Growing old in Britain is not a happy experience. The longer we live the worse our quality of life becomes 25/07/08MAX HASTINGS: We will have to learn to live with recession, and my heart goes out to those facing it for the first time 16/07/08Please don\'t take after your father, William 30/06/08Bush has been the most disastrous president of modern times. Justcount the days till we can cheer his departure 16/06/08Our soldiers are heroes but the truth is we are FAILING in Afghanistan 10/06/08Why the good old stiff upper lip is the best therapy of all 03/06/08VIEW FULL ARCHIVE One day, I drove her to the airport to emigrate to Australia, where she had a son living. She hated to go and wept buckets. But she felt that her street, her city, were no longer the places which she knew and loved. That is why George Steiner\'s words, which have got him into such hot water, struck a powerful chord with me. He was making the point that it is very easy for us middle-class types, living in our cosy social enclaves with not a black or brown face in sight, to strike noble postures about race and immigration. Too glibly, we demand from others a tolerance which costs us nothing. Three years ago, an impeccably liberal study-group published a book entitled The New East End, which sent shockwaves through the race-relations industry. It described the bitterness of many established white residents in East London towards Bangladeshi newcomers, who were perceived - sometimes justly - as receiving preferential treatment for housing and social services, while introducing values at odds with those of the traditional cockney community. The book explicitly cited the follies of middle-class liberal politicians and social workers, whose own lives were safely isolated from the consequences, trying to impose make-believe ideals on others. Nobody sensible could have supposed that the authors of The New East End were a bunch of racists. They were merely honest researchers, describing the predicament of the white working-class, which perceived itself dispossessed by newcomers of its rights and heritage. George Steiner is telling the same story. He knows that tribe, identity, matter to all of us. We want to be good citizens, and most of us are determined to rub along with the new world, in which all manner of people from different cultures have been thrust upon us. But it is not easy. The fools are those who pretend it is. Many of us learned at school to cherish our literary and historic heritage - Dickens and Jane Austen, Marlborough, Wellington and Churchill. There is an inevitable gap between us and those who share no part of that legacy, and in some cases do not want their children to learn to do so. Watching Shakespeare\'s history plays performed, I am a little embarrassed to admit that I struggle to believe in black actors playing Henry V or Richard III, or indeed their courtiers. This is not, I hope, because I am a bigot, but because I cannot forget that, in the Middle Ages, Britain had no black kings or lords. Now, the answer to that one is that all dramas, including Shakespeare\'s history plays, are fictions which should transcend national cultures. When I am thinking as a grown-up, I recognise this. But, in the spirit of Steiner\'s remarks, I must admit the need to make an effort to become colour-blind. I am not proud of saying this - it is just the way most of us are made. Steiner was perhaps a little careless in his choice of words, in seeming to express indiscriminate scepticism about immigrants. In truth, I think, we are pretty good at accepting people of any race who adopt the customs and lifestyle of our tribe - which is why race relations among the young in Britain are much better than they might be. Many of the children of immigrants talk and behave just like their white counterparts, and are accepted on equal terms. We direct our spleen against those - black, brown, or white - who behave anti-socially. It is as repugnant to find a white teenage girl lurching drunk down a train as to see a black van-driver deafening whole streets by playing his stereo full-blast with open windows. Our old daily, Elsie Elmer, did not leave Britain because her new neighbours were black, but because they behaved like beasts. She would have suffered as much from their music if they had been white. If they had adopted civilised values - which have nothing to do with class or race, everything to do with decency - she would have died in her London home. George Steiner must be right - indeed, he expresses a familiar truth about human behaviour - when he suggests that we are most comfortable in the company of others like ourselves. That does not mean that we expect neighbours and fellow citizens to vote the same way, to like the same music and films, choose the same holidays or favour the same clothes. We merely want to share a common framework of values and behaviour, and we struggle in the company of those who do not, whatever their colour. I was talking at the weekend to one of the most sensible pillars of the race-relations industry about the case of Tarique Ghaffur, the assistant commissioner who has denounced the Metropolitan Police for alleged discrimination about his promotion. My friend said: \'You must remember that somebody like that goes through his whole career knowing that every time he walks into a room, most of the people in it are not hostile - but they feel a vague sense that he is not like them.\' This does not mean that Ghaffur is the victim of discrimination, simply that his relationships are fractionally different from those among white colleagues. It is nobody\'s fault. It is just tribalism at work, of the kind which has influenced mankind since the beginning of time. Only in a world where foolish race lobbies try to force multi-culturalism down our throats could its existence be disputed. Mass immigration is imposing huge pressures on our society, and on the goodwill of its established residents. What is remarkable is not how badly most people behave in consequence, but how well. George Steiner has stated simple truths, and only the idiot Left could deny their reality.
Alan Page, says...
2:28pm Tue 2 Sep 08
natasha wrote:Taking drugs a working class thing?
Tom wrote:First of all, i dont take drugs, thats a working class thing, and yes, i am british, although sometimes i wish i wasnt, with such racist, hateful bigots such as yourself, just look at the picture. The audience was hideously white, we are supposed to be a multicultural society now, I cant help but think all those white peole together WAVING FLAGS, to me this was no different or no better than a national front meeting. Something tells me you would know all about that.natasha wrote: this sort of flag waving makes me sick,this was nothing more than a glorified national front meeting.what racist bigots these prats are.Yes Natasha these people really look like you typical national front members..... are you a crack-head or something? I guess you are not British.
pam, bicester says...
3:27pm Tue 2 Sep 08
steve, peterborough says...
4:08pm Tue 2 Sep 08
Tom, says...
4:48pm Tue 2 Sep 08
delroy wrote:Reporting me for what exactly?.
Tom wrote:I speak anyway i want, you get me, dis is how i speak, you clearly is a racist, and i'm reporting you to the oxford mail. What nazi party you from? I think dese people waving da flags is racist as you, you get me you scum bag racist nazi.Delroy wrote: They is no better than bnp,you get me.why did the old bill not stop this race? hate?Delroy repeat after me... "they are no better". I am guessing that with a name like Delroy you are of carribean descent?. Good for you. The BNP exist and thrive because people like you and the comments you make cause outrage amongst the white community. It is not racist to wave the flag of England,what is racist is to ask the people of England NOT to wave their flag that was around long before the windrush sailed. Respect the locals and they will respect you.
Tom, says...
4:56pm Tue 2 Sep 08
natasha wrote:In the absense of a brain,people will throw around the widely misused phrase "racist".
Tom wrote:First of all, i dont take drugs, thats a working class thing, and yes, i am british, although sometimes i wish i wasnt, with such racist, hateful bigots such as yourself, just look at the picture. The audience was hideously white, we are supposed to be a multicultural society now, I cant help but think all those white peole together WAVING FLAGS, to me this was no different or no better than a national front meeting. Something tells me you would know all about that.natasha wrote: this sort of flag waving makes me sick,this was nothing more than a glorified national front meeting.what racist bigots these prats are.Yes Natasha these people really look like you typical national front members..... are you a crack-head or something? I guess you are not British.
gary, oxford says...
5:35pm Tue 2 Sep 08
Tom wrote:great post tom,im a fan of yours.well done and yes we are being mocked ina big way but scum like Natasha cant see past her pc nose.
natasha wrote:In the absense of a brain,people will throw around the widely misused phrase "racist". Natasha you are a disgrace to your country when you think we have to ponder to every nationality while your own is being mocked. Clearly anybody thinking that crack is a working class problem only is either a bit stupid or deluded. New labour has brainwashed you.I feel very sorry for people like you.Tom wrote:First of all, i dont take drugs, thats a working class thing, and yes, i am british, although sometimes i wish i wasnt, with such racist, hateful bigots such as yourself, just look at the picture. The audience was hideously white, we are supposed to be a multicultural society now, I cant help but think all those white peole together WAVING FLAGS, to me this was no different or no better than a national front meeting. Something tells me you would know all about that.natasha wrote: this sort of flag waving makes me sick,this was nothing more than a glorified national front meeting.what racist bigots these prats are.Yes Natasha these people really look like you typical national front members..... are you a crack-head or something? I guess you are not British.
Tom, says...
5:44pm Tue 2 Sep 08
gary, oxford says...
5:57pm Tue 2 Sep 08
Tom wrote:WOW tom your great.
It might shock many of you to learn that i am not a British citizen. My love of this country means that I am disgusted how the ordinary man on the street had been victimised into being quite at the risk of being labelled a "racist". The downfall of any society started with traitors from within,i guess people like Natasha and Alan Page will have their place in the history books written about how multiculturalism failed in Britain.
bite the hand that feeds you, oxford says...
7:36pm Tue 2 Sep 08
Alan Page, Guildford says...
7:40pm Tue 2 Sep 08
pam wrote:Well done. You appear to have mastered cut and paste.
A TODDLER accidentally shot in the head by his five-year-old sister with an airgun died in hospital yesterday. The father of 18-month-old Rasheed Rullah had used the gun for target practice in their garden and put it down to answer his phone. A police spokesman said yesterday: Inquiries are ongoing, so we cannot be categoric at this stage, but I think we will end up continuing to treat this as a tragic accident. Handyman Bakht Zaman, 29, of Washwood Heath, Birmingham, had been in a world of his own since his daughter Asna fired the gun nine days ago, relatives revealed. His father Bakht Rammand said: It has been hard for Bakht because he will have to face his family and face me as head of the family. This is an accident which isnt his fault but I am a father of five children and the whole family are going to ask a lot of questions. WHAT was he practising shootin? the infidle? what do you think alun page?
Alan Page, says...
7:43pm Tue 2 Sep 08
steve wrote:Steve, please feel free to f--k off to Peterborough and stay there.
As a regular visitor to the beautiful city of Oxford, I have had to watch in dismay its decline over the years through multiculturalism! I used to love to go shopping there in the days when there were no problems with parking and the car parks charged a reasonable fee. Today, through the sheer amount of foreigners that have arrived there, it has become a stinking, garbage riddled, third world hell hole! Only about 18 months ago my youngest son was threatened with a knife by Asians trying to inflict their claim on this once wonderful city. As far as Im concerned, Dr Taj Hargey and his ilk can go and whistle. It is because of the likes of his kind, people like me no longer want to visit Oxford and this once lovely city is now rapidly going downhill. Once again we have to thank the lib/lab/conmen!!!!
Alan Page, says...
7:47pm Tue 2 Sep 08
Tom wrote:How do you spell criticism or "indiginous(?!!)"Tom
delroy wrote:Reporting me for what exactly?. Because i do not agree with you?. If that truth hurts you then you need to ask yourself who you are and what you are doing in the U.K. You are the racist my friend.Racism works both ways. You by trying to deprive the indiginous people of Oxford their history, are no better than the monsters who enslaved your people. This was a terrible crime,do not commit this type of crime on white people. As for the way you speak.... If you want to be classed as a british person at least have the respect to learn the language.Tom wrote:I speak anyway i want, you get me, dis is how i speak, you clearly is a racist, and i\'m reporting you to the oxford mail. What nazi party you from? I think dese people waving da flags is racist as you, you get me you scum bag racist nazi.Delroy wrote: They is no better than bnp,you get me.why did the old bill not stop this race? hate?Delroy repeat after me... \"they are no better\". I am guessing that with a name like Delroy you are of carribean descent?. Good for you. The BNP exist and thrive because people like you and the comments you make cause outrage amongst the white community. It is not racist to wave the flag of England,what is racist is to ask the people of England NOT to wave their flag that was around long before the windrush sailed. Respect the locals and they will respect you.
Homer Simpson, Springfield says...
3:13pm Mon 1 Sep 08