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5:30am Friday 29th August 2008
The problem of secondhand cars being sold at the side of the county's roads is still not being dealt with, according to those living near the unofficial forecourts.
Since the Oxford Mail highlighted the issue in Rose Hill and Cowley Road earlier this month, details of other trading hotspots have come to light.
In Oxford, the situation appears to be worsening while the city council last night maintained its hands were tied.
In areas where parking is unrestricted, the local authority can take action only if the sellers are proved to be commercial traders selling two or more vehicles.
And itt is not illegal for private sellers to offer a number of cars for sale at once.
John Wiggins, who lives in Cowley Road, said: "It's got worse. There were 12 cars here on Saturday and 10 on Wednesday. On Sunday, a car parked halfway over my drive."
Paul Lester, of Print Shop in Rose Hill, said: "I've not seen any wardens, council officials or even parking attendants down here in the last couple of weeks, but there don't seem to be as many cars - maybe they've all moved to Cowley Road.
"There are still cars for sale here, though. It's a free forecourt."
A city council spokesman said: "No cars have been towed away or any extra patrols begun.
"Legally we cannot do anything and now they know about the legal loophole, I guess it's got worse."
In Abingdon, the lack of regulation is being exploited in Marcham Road, where secondhand vehicles clog up a layby just yards from the town's police station.
In the past two years, householders have written to Oxfordshire County Council, the Vale of White Horse District Council and the police, but residents said the problem had got worse.
Ernest Wright, 79, of Galley Field, said: "They should be prosecuted, end of story. It's not a sales court, it's not an extension of the forecourt, it belongs to the public, not the individual.
"It's getting worse and progressing now along Drayton Road."
Lorry driver Alan Smout, 51, who lives in nearby Winterbourne Road, said: "Normally there are about nine vehicles there all for sale. I am sure there is someone trading there."
Trading standards officer Ian Marriott said: "Oxfordshire County Council does not have any powers to get these vehicles moved or prevent them being sold in this way.
"We are monitoring the sales and ensuring sellers who are traders comply with their legal obligations. We would welcome any information from the public about traders."
William Stroudley, Sandford Lock. says...
10:09am Fri 29 Aug 08
Car- less person, Home! says...
10:43am Fri 29 Aug 08
William Stroudley, Sandford Lock says...
10:50am Fri 29 Aug 08
Simon, Oxford says...
11:05am Fri 29 Aug 08
anon, oxford says...
11:16am Fri 29 Aug 08
charlie chaplin, oxfordshire says...
11:19am Fri 29 Aug 08
Bob Marley, In the Sky says...
11:37am Fri 29 Aug 08
charlie chaplin wrote:Brilliant idea... anlong with Simon's idea of the 'Bannana up the exhaust'!!!
Local residents.....call the numbers throughout the day and night.....they'll soon change their mind.
DanOxford, says...
11:58am Fri 29 Aug 08
charlie chaplin, oxford says...
12:03pm Fri 29 Aug 08
William Stroudley, Sandford Lock says...
12:52pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Lady Lou, Oxford says...
1:02pm Fri 29 Aug 08
john mcmurphy, exeter pub cowley says...
1:58pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Villager, Sandford says...
2:17pm Fri 29 Aug 08
john mcmurphy wrote:Sounds perfect!!!!!
nothing a sharp key wont sort out gonna go for a walk now plenty up the road about ten of them might even bring a hammer to
Nosey Parker, Now that would be telling says...
2:26pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Villager wrote:.... I might just join you....
john mcmurphy wrote: nothing a sharp key wont sort out gonna go for a walk now plenty up the road about ten of them might even bring a hammer toSounds perfect!!!!!
Jason, Oxford says...
2:34pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Villager wrote:
john mcmurphy wrote: nothing a sharp key wont sort out gonna go for a walk now plenty up the road about ten of them might even bring a hammer to
Sounds perfect!!!!!
.... I might just join you....
Bannana Man, says...
2:46pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Jason wrote:Jason is obviously one of the idiots that is flogging a few cars in his street!
Villager wrote: john mcmurphy wrote: nothing a sharp key wont sort out gonna go for a walk now plenty up the road about ten of them might even bring a hammer to Sounds perfect!!!!! .... I might just join you....you lot are as bad as the tw@ts that go round letting people's tyres down.
DanOxford, says...
2:49pm Fri 29 Aug 08
William Stroudley wrote:You're right- I live in a house with adequate parking for my own use, and thus avoid getting my knickers in a twist about students owning cars, people selling cars or people driving down my road and damaging my car.
I take it that DanOxford does not live in a road/street that gets clogged up with cars for sale that belong to dealers?
Me, Oxford says...
2:53pm Fri 29 Aug 08
DanOxford wrote:Dan - you are clearly a kn0b!
William Stroudley wrote: I take it that DanOxford does not live in a road/street that gets clogged up with cars for sale that belong to dealers?You're right- I live in a house with adequate parking for my own use, and thus avoid getting my knickers in a twist about students owning cars, people selling cars or people driving down my road and damaging my car. I also avoid the stress and rip- off of not being able to park easily or affordably inside the ring road due to extortionate parking charges and the residents only racket by driving to Reading, parking for free and spending my money there. Oxford's become an overcrowded, dirty dump with a poor selection of shops and a wide selection of moaning NIMBY (self) interest groups- some of whom seem to think it's perfectly acceptable to interfere with or cause damage to other peoples property, be it because they don't like 4x4's or other people parking where they themselves would like to. Quite frankly, people like that deserve the city Oxford has become.
Interested By Stander, Planet Earth says...
2:54pm Fri 29 Aug 08
danoxford for PM, says...
3:37pm Fri 29 Aug 08
DanOxford wrote:danoxford your right again,danoxford for pm NOW.
Given the (tedious) regularity at which this 'story' appears, I can only assume that someone at the Oxford Mail or a close friend of theirs is slightly miffed at having to park their car slightly further away due to a few people selling cars. If a car is taxed, you can park it where you **** well like- unless of course the Council have decreed that it's residents only, charged a resident for a permit and will slap a fine on anyone else who parks there- even if all the residents are at work and the street is empty. In Cambridge (which I assume is similarly full of Anti- car Nazis) careworkers now have to do visits in pairs- one to provide vital care to a vulnerable person and one to keep an eye out for private car parking enforcers eager to slap a ticket on anyone they can. Times are hard for everyone- especially in Oxford where massive numbers of students and migrants have ensured that house prices are sky high, streets are overcrowded and wages are kept low. Oxford is full of petty minded, snoopy NIMBY's- most of whom were not born in Oxford (or indeed the UK...) so have sod all 'right' to moan about anyone else carrying on their business within the law.
Tom, says...
5:21pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Eddy Grundy wrote:It kills me to say it (joke) but a great comment Eddy.
So how did it all start? Political Correctness started in a think tank (called The Frankfurt School) in Germany in 1923. The purpose was to find a solution to the biggest problem facing the implementers of communism in Russia. Why wasn't the wonderful idea of communism spreading? Read the full history and purpose here or watch a 22 minute documentary here. The Frankfurt school recommended (amongst other things): the creation of racism offences continual change to create confusion the teaching of sex and homosexuality to children the undermining of schools and teachers' authority huge immigration to destroy identity the promotion of excessive drinking emptying the churches an unreliable legal system with bias against the victim of crime dependency on the state or state benefits control and dumbing down of media encouraging the breakdown of the family
Tom, says...
5:26pm Fri 29 Aug 08
david cameron-young, says...
5:39pm Fri 29 Aug 08
paul le roy, says...
6:34pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Tom, says...
7:11pm Fri 29 Aug 08
paul le roy wrote:(1) A car dealer
If you sell more than 6 cars a year you should be legally registered as trader - i bet most of these people arnt.
christine, cowley says...
7:56pm Fri 29 Aug 08
RK7, Woke Up In Madrid (Awaiting Deportation) says...
8:02pm Fri 29 Aug 08
DanOxford wrote:Dude You Don't Like F*** Off to London.
William Stroudley wrote: I take it that DanOxford does not live in a road/street that gets clogged up with cars for sale that belong to dealers?You\'re right- I live in a house with adequate parking for my own use, and thus avoid getting my knickers in a twist about students owning cars, people selling cars or people driving down my road and damaging my car. I also avoid the stress and rip- off of not being able to park easily or affordably inside the ring road due to extortionate parking charges and the residents only racket by driving to Reading, parking for free and spending my money there. Oxford\'s become an overcrowded, dirty dump with a poor selection of shops and a wide selection of moaning NIMBY (self) interest groups- some of whom seem to think it\'s perfectly acceptable to interfere with or cause damage to other peoples property, be it because they don\'t like 4x4\'s or other people parking where they themselves would like to. Quite frankly, people like that deserve the city Oxford has become.
DanOxford, says...
9:35pm Fri 29 Aug 08
RK7 wrote:WTF has London got to do with anything?
DanOxford wrote:Dude You Don\'t Like F*** Off to London. Although intresting thought in the Daily Mirror (So It Must Be True) Oxford is the 249th Depressed City in Briton. Note: Oxford Mail Don\'t Mention ThatWilliam Stroudley wrote: I take it that DanOxford does not live in a road/street that gets clogged up with cars for sale that belong to dealers?You\\\'re right- I live in a house with adequate parking for my own use, and thus avoid getting my knickers in a twist about students owning cars, people selling cars or people driving down my road and damaging my car. I also avoid the stress and rip- off of not being able to park easily or affordably inside the ring road due to extortionate parking charges and the residents only racket by driving to Reading, parking for free and spending my money there. Oxford\\\'s become an overcrowded, dirty dump with a poor selection of shops and a wide selection of moaning NIMBY (self) interest groups- some of whom seem to think it\\\'s perfectly acceptable to interfere with or cause damage to other peoples property, be it because they don\\\'t like 4x4\\\'s or other people parking where they themselves would like to. Quite frankly, people like that deserve the city Oxford has become.
george micheal, dogging site says...
9:48pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Bob Marley wrote:sounds fun.
charlie chaplin wrote: Local residents.....call the numbers throughout the day and night.....they'll soon change their mind.Brilliant idea... anlong with Simon's idea of the 'Bannana up the exhaust'!!!
Eddy Grundy, Ambridge says...
1:54am Sat 30 Aug 08
Tom wrote:This was NOT written by me as you well know Tom. Typical well known tactic of BNP supporters of writing misleading comments and signing them with the name of one of their opponents.
Eddy Grundy wrote: So how did it all start? Political Correctness started in a think tank (called The Frankfurt School) in Germany in 1923. The purpose was to find a solution to the biggest problem facing the implementers of communism in Russia. Why wasn't the wonderful idea of communism spreading? Read the full history and purpose here or watch a 22 minute documentary here. The Frankfurt school recommended (amongst other things): the creation of racism offences continual change to create confusion the teaching of sex and homosexuality to children the undermining of schools and teachers' authority huge immigration to destroy identity the promotion of excessive drinking emptying the churches an unreliable legal system with bias against the victim of crime dependency on the state or state benefits control and dumbing down of media encouraging the breakdown of the familyIt kills me to say it (joke) but a great comment Eddy. it sure explains their true agenda......
towny, says...
11:50am Sat 30 Aug 08
john mcmurphy wrote:your all mouth doing that and you deserve time inside
nothing a sharp key wont sort out gonna go for a walk now plenty up the road about ten of them might even bring a hammer to
Tom, says...
2:45pm Sat 30 Aug 08
christine wrote:Christine clearly is on the sherry again.
Tom's at it again I see; pasting stories from the bnp website that are totally irrelevant to the topic. WELL, GUESS WHAT TOM? I WON'T BE GRIEVING FOR ANY RACIST BNP Activist. Can't wait til this site forces racist cowards like you to register properly.
kyoceran, wootton says...
6:32pm Sat 30 Aug 08
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10:00am Fri 29 Aug 08