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Cameron calls for General Election
Tory leader and Witney MP David Cameron today urged Prime Minister Gordon Brown to call a General Election in the wake of Labour's disastrous Glasgow East by-election defeat .
He said: "I think we need change in this country."
The loss of Glasgow East at the hands of the SNP will spark panic among the party's MPs and cast fresh doubt over the Prime Minister's future.
The seat had been one of Labour's safest with a majority of more than 13,500, but a massive swing of over 22% saw the nationalists secure it by a margin of 365.
If the performance was repeated at a general election, Mr Brown and a slew of Cabinet ministers would be kicked out of the Commons.
8:28am Friday 25th July 2008
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CommentPosted by: woodstockreddog, Woodstock on 8:35am Fri 25 Jul 08
God help us if the tory boy gets in
God help us if the tory boy gets in
Posted by: Joe, Marston Road on 9:15am Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]woodstockreddog[/bold] wrote:
God help us if the tory boy gets in[/quote] What is the problem with 'Call Me Dave'?
Must dash; got to fill in my expenses application!
Enough said.
woodstockreddog wrote:
God help us if the tory boy gets in
What is the problem with 'Call Me Dave'?
Must dash; got to fill in my expenses application!
Enough said.
Posted by: Mick McAndrews, Oxford on 9:37am Fri 25 Jul 08
Of course Cameron is calling for Brown to go and of course if this type of swing was reflected in a General Election Brown et al would lose their seats..... but when has the results of a by-election ever reflected a General Election? The answer is quite simply NEVER..... this is nothing but boulder hype to fill the columns of the OM. I realise that with Cameron being an Oxfordshire MP some of his comments are worth reporting howver why does the OM feel the need to pring every one word he utters! A bit of Brown-nosing if you ask me!
Of course Cameron is calling for Brown to go and of course if this type of swing was reflected in a General Election Brown et al would lose their seats..... but when has the results of a by-election ever reflected a General Election? The answer is quite simply NEVER..... this is nothing but boulder hype to fill the columns of the OM. I realise that with Cameron being an Oxfordshire MP some of his comments are worth reporting howver why does the OM feel the need to pring every one word he utters! A bit of Brown-nosing if you ask me!
Posted by: Becky, Witney on 10:28am Fri 25 Jul 08
Regardless of whether it is Mr Cameron, Mr Clegg, the press or the public asking for a general election to be called, it makes no matter. A general election is the only way that the Labour Party, and Gordon Brown, will find out what the British public really thinks, wants and needs. Gordon Brown (who was not elected) is hanging on by his fingernails as the country falls apart around him and his party, and this demonstrates nothing short of absolute contempt for the British people. Call a general election now and let us have our say!!
Regardless of whether it is Mr Cameron, Mr Clegg, the press or the public asking for a general election to be called, it makes no matter. A general election is the only way that the Labour Party, and Gordon Brown, will find out what the British public really thinks, wants and needs. Gordon Brown (who was not elected) is hanging on by his fingernails as the country falls apart around him and his party, and this demonstrates nothing short of absolute contempt for the British people. Call a general election now and let us have our say!!
Posted by: R, oxford on 10:32am Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]woodstockreddog[/bold] wrote:
God help us if the tory boy gets in[/quote] God help us if labour loony stays!
I think it would actually be impossible for anyone to be a worse leader than Gordy!
woodstockreddog wrote:
God help us if the tory boy gets in
God help us if labour loony stays!
I think it would actually be impossible for anyone to be a worse leader than Gordy!
Posted by: Tony Brett, Oxford on 10:34am Fri 25 Jul 08
Actually Becky, Gordon Brown was elected as an MP and then elected by Labour party people as leader of the party. Living in Witney you couldn't have voted any more for Tony Blair than you did Gordon Brown.
But I agree that it's time for Labour to go.
Actually Becky, Gordon Brown was elected as an MP and then elected by Labour party people as leader of the party. Living in Witney you couldn't have voted any more for Tony Blair than you did Gordon Brown.
But I agree that it's time for Labour to go.
Posted by: Ed, Oxford on 11:08am Fri 25 Jul 08
There is no-one in British politics who is capable of leading the country and doing what will be very unpopular with some people and other nations in order to bring the UK back to the fore.
We need a referendum on Europe. We need to support our farmers and not bend over for the EU. We need more support and less red tape for businesses and we need to get away from the USA.
No party has the balls to do what is required.
Maybe it's time for a dictator?
There is no-one in British politics who is capable of leading the country and doing what will be very unpopular with some people and other nations in order to bring the UK back to the fore.
We need a referendum on Europe. We need to support our farmers and not bend over for the EU. We need more support and less red tape for businesses and we need to get away from the USA.
No party has the balls to do what is required.
Maybe it's time for a dictator?
Posted by: Bogota Bob, Cook Islands on 11:42am Fri 25 Jul 08
There is no credible opposistion to Labour in this country, MP's and government are some of the biggest freeloaders we support.
I'm with Ed Oxford that we need some politicians who put securing the country over cheating expenses, sh*gging cheeky girls or jumping on any popular bandwagon to look credible.
Lets have some decisive tough politicians - we need these people to make decisions which may be unpopular but at least to have the conviction to do it. Ken Livingston had that conviction, Gwyneth Dunwoody had that conviction. Spineless PR puppets like Cameron do not have it, and if he does win the next election we will see what a fraud he and the other candidates are.
There is no credible opposistion to Labour in this country, MP's and government are some of the biggest freeloaders we support.
I'm with Ed Oxford that we need some politicians who put securing the country over cheating expenses, sh*gging cheeky girls or jumping on any popular bandwagon to look credible.
Lets have some decisive tough politicians - we need these people to make decisions which may be unpopular but at least to have the conviction to do it. Ken Livingston had that conviction, Gwyneth Dunwoody had that conviction. Spineless PR puppets like Cameron do not have it, and if he does win the next election we will see what a fraud he and the other candidates are.
Posted by: Alan Page, Guildford on 11:45am Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Ed[/bold] wrote:
There is no-one in British politics who is capable of leading the country and doing what will be very unpopular with some people and other nations in order to bring the UK back to the fore. We need a referendum on Europe. We need to support our farmers and not bend over for the EU. We need more support and less red tape for businesses and we need to get away from the USA. No party has the balls to do what is required. Maybe it's time for a dictator?[/quote] "Less red tape for businesses" "Time for a dictator"
The only people being allowed to do what the hell they want then being corporate tax fiddlers?
Figures.
Ed wrote:
There is no-one in British politics who is capable of leading the country and doing what will be very unpopular with some people and other nations in order to bring the UK back to the fore. We need a referendum on Europe. We need to support our farmers and not bend over for the EU. We need more support and less red tape for businesses and we need to get away from the USA. No party has the balls to do what is required. Maybe it's time for a dictator?
"Less red tape for businesses" "Time for a dictator"
The only people being allowed to do what the hell they want then being corporate tax fiddlers?
Figures.
Posted by: Tony Brett, Oxford on 11:51am Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Ed[/bold] wrote:
There is no-one in British politics who is capable of leading the country and doing what will be very unpopular with some people and other nations in order to bring the UK back to the fore. We need a referendum on Europe. We need to support our farmers and not bend over for the EU. We need more support and less red tape for businesses and we need to get away from the USA. No party has the balls to do what is required. Maybe it's time for a dictator?[/quote] I volunteer my services!
Ed wrote:
There is no-one in British politics who is capable of leading the country and doing what will be very unpopular with some people and other nations in order to bring the UK back to the fore. We need a referendum on Europe. We need to support our farmers and not bend over for the EU. We need more support and less red tape for businesses and we need to get away from the USA. No party has the balls to do what is required. Maybe it's time for a dictator?
I volunteer my services!
Posted by: Tom on 12:14pm Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Tony Brett[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Ed[/bold] wrote: There is no-one in British politics who is capable of leading the country and doing what will be very unpopular with some people and other nations in order to bring the UK back to the fore. We need a referendum on Europe. We need to support our farmers and not bend over for the EU. We need more support and less red tape for businesses and we need to get away from the USA. No party has the balls to do what is required. Maybe it's time for a dictator?[/quote] I volunteer my services![/quote] Saj Malik for dictator.
He looks a bit like Saddam and he has a history of being dodgy.
Tony Brett wrote:
Ed wrote: There is no-one in British politics who is capable of leading the country and doing what will be very unpopular with some people and other nations in order to bring the UK back to the fore. We need a referendum on Europe. We need to support our farmers and not bend over for the EU. We need more support and less red tape for businesses and we need to get away from the USA. No party has the balls to do what is required. Maybe it's time for a dictator?
I volunteer my services!
Saj Malik for dictator.
He looks a bit like Saddam and he has a history of being dodgy.
Posted by: Ed, Oxford on 12:20pm Fri 25 Jul 08
Alan, businesses keep you in a job (assuming you're not on benefits?) and keep the economy healthy. Small businesses are the lifeblood of the UK economy, and I want less red tape for them to thrive.
Tony; if you think the Lib Dems will do any better that the Laboservative party then you're misguided. I was a LD member for many years.
They have no chance of winning nationally, so we're stuck with Labour and Tory for ever.
Is it any wonder why British people are so apathetic about politics? The expenses cover-up debarcle only goes to show they don't want the gravy train to stop!
Alan, businesses keep you in a job (assuming you're not on benefits?) and keep the economy healthy. Small businesses are the lifeblood of the UK economy, and I want less red tape for them to thrive.
Tony; if you think the Lib Dems will do any better that the Laboservative party then you're misguided. I was a LD member for many years.
They have no chance of winning nationally, so we're stuck with Labour and Tory for ever.
Is it any wonder why British people are so apathetic about politics? The expenses cover-up debarcle only goes to show they don't want the gravy train to stop!
Posted by: cottage2day, Cowley on 12:37pm Fri 25 Jul 08
BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP!!! I am voting BNP all the way!!!
BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP!!! I am voting BNP all the way!!!
Posted by: apathetic voter, oxford on 12:51pm Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]woodstockreddog[/bold] wrote:
God help us if the tory boy gets in[/quote] God help us who ever gets in !!!
woodstockreddog wrote:
God help us if the tory boy gets in
God help us who ever gets in !!!
Posted by: Even more apathetic voter., Oxford on 1:38pm Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]apathetic voter[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]woodstockreddog[/bold] wrote: God help us if the tory boy gets in[/quote] God help us who ever gets in !!![/quote] Just a hypothetical situation.
Imagine no-one bothered to vote?
I am unaware of the diplomatic prossess in this scenario.
God forbid El Presidento Gordon!!!!!!!
'Or perhaps' Just call me Presidento 'Dave'
The future is not Orange, it is Sad!!!!!!
Charles and Camilla are waiting in the wings.
apathetic voter wrote:
woodstockreddog wrote: God help us if the tory boy gets in
God help us who ever gets in !!!
Just a hypothetical situation.
Imagine no-one bothered to vote?
I am unaware of the diplomatic prossess in this scenario.
God forbid El Presidento Gordon!!!!!!!
'Or perhaps' Just call me Presidento 'Dave'
The future is not Orange, it is Sad!!!!!!
Charles and Camilla are waiting in the wings.
Posted by: An even more apathetic voter., Anywhere exept the UK at the moment! on 1:48pm Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Tom[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Tony Brett[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Ed[/bold] wrote: There is no-one in British politics who is capable of leading the country and doing what will be very unpopular with some people and other nations in order to bring the UK back to the fore. We need a referendum on Europe. We need to support our farmers and not bend over for the EU. We need more support and less red tape for businesses and we need to get away from the USA. No party has the balls to do what is required. Maybe it\'s time for a dictator?[/quote] I volunteer my services![/quote] Saj Malik for dictator. He looks a bit like Saddam and he has a history of being dodgy.[/quote] Lembit Opik must be favourite.
He has more vowels in his name and used to escort a cheeky girl!
How else would one define a new leader of this illustrious country?
Sorry; must dash, more expense sheets to be completed.
Tom wrote:
Tony Brett wrote: Ed wrote: There is no-one in British politics who is capable of leading the country and doing what will be very unpopular with some people and other nations in order to bring the UK back to the fore. We need a referendum on Europe. We need to support our farmers and not bend over for the EU. We need more support and less red tape for businesses and we need to get away from the USA. No party has the balls to do what is required. Maybe it\'s time for a dictator?
I volunteer my services!
Saj Malik for dictator. He looks a bit like Saddam and he has a history of being dodgy.
Lembit Opik must be favourite.
He has more vowels in his name and used to escort a cheeky girl!
How else would one define a new leader of this illustrious country?
Sorry; must dash, more expense sheets to be completed.
Posted by: Tom on 1:53pm Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]cottage2day[/bold] wrote:
BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP!!! I am voting BNP all the way!!![/quote] Of course you are,in the absense of a brain that is........
cottage2day wrote:
BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP!!! I am voting BNP all the way!!!
Of course you are,in the absense of a brain that is........
Posted by: Alan Page, Guildford on 2:13pm Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Ed[/bold] wrote:
Alan, businesses keep you in a job (assuming you're not on benefits?) and keep the economy healthy. Small businesses are the lifeblood of the UK economy, and I want less red tape for them to thrive. Tony; if you think the Lib Dems will do any better that the Laboservative party then you're misguided. I was a LD member for many years. They have no chance of winning nationally, so we're stuck with Labour and Tory for ever. Is it any wonder why British people are so apathetic about politics? The expenses cover-up debarcle only goes to show they don't want the gravy train to stop![/quote] Given the wage differentials between shopfloor and corporate penpusher, the only thing businesses do is allow lots of fat bloated greedy bastards to line their own pockets whilst telling everybody else to tighten their belts.
It is little wonder that a life on the dole is considered (by some) preferable.
I thought most small businesses had been bought up by conglomerates any. Looking at most high streets would confirm that opinion. I think reining in corporate expansionism rather than encouraging it would be a better move.
Ed wrote:
Alan, businesses keep you in a job (assuming you're not on benefits?) and keep the economy healthy. Small businesses are the lifeblood of the UK economy, and I want less red tape for them to thrive. Tony; if you think the Lib Dems will do any better that the Laboservative party then you're misguided. I was a LD member for many years. They have no chance of winning nationally, so we're stuck with Labour and Tory for ever. Is it any wonder why British people are so apathetic about politics? The expenses cover-up debarcle only goes to show they don't want the gravy train to stop!
Given the wage differentials between shopfloor and corporate penpusher, the only thing businesses do is allow lots of fat bloated greedy bastards to line their own pockets whilst telling everybody else to tighten their belts.
It is little wonder that a life on the dole is considered (by some) preferable.
I thought most small businesses had been bought up by conglomerates any. Looking at most high streets would confirm that opinion. I think reining in corporate expansionism rather than encouraging it would be a better move.
Posted by: kb, oxford on 2:16pm Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Tony Brett[/bold] wrote:
Actually Becky, Gordon Brown was elected as an MP and then elected by Labour party people as leader of the party. Living in Witney you couldn't have voted any more for Tony Blair than you did Gordon Brown.
But I agree that it's time for Labour to go.[/quote] Not strictly true - people who voted Labour in the last general election did so knowing that, at the time, Tony Blair was leader of the party; therefore effectively voting for him even if the cross in the ballet slip didn't actually go against his name.
Tony Brett wrote:
Actually Becky, Gordon Brown was elected as an MP and then elected by Labour party people as leader of the party. Living in Witney you couldn't have voted any more for Tony Blair than you did Gordon Brown.
But I agree that it's time for Labour to go.
Not strictly true - people who voted Labour in the last general election did so knowing that, at the time, Tony Blair was leader of the party; therefore effectively voting for him even if the cross in the ballet slip didn't actually go against his name.
Posted by: J, oxford on 2:57pm Fri 25 Jul 08
As far as I'm concerned, Gordon Brown is not our primeminister, as he never had the balls to call a general election, so was never "actually" voted in!
At least even John Major called a general election!
I don't care who runs the country, but I'm so sick of bullsh*t and a no blame culture.
As far as I'm concerned, Gordon Brown is not our primeminister, as he never had the balls to call a general election, so was never "actually" voted in!
At least even John Major called a general election!
I don't care who runs the country, but I'm so sick of bullsh*t and a no blame culture.
Posted by: Questioner, Abingdon on 3:00pm Fri 25 Jul 08
What's the difference between Gordon Brown and Robert Mugabe, et al? Shade only. Neither have been elected nor are they electable!
What's the difference between Gordon Brown and Robert Mugabe, et al? Shade only. Neither have been elected nor are they electable!
Posted by: cottage2day, Cowley on 3:22pm Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Tom[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]cottage2day[/bold] wrote: BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP!!! I am voting BNP all the way!!![/quote] Of course you are,in the absense of a brain that is........[/quote] BNP ALL THE WAY. Get rid of immigrants... BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP
Tom wrote:
cottage2day wrote: BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP!!! I am voting BNP all the way!!!
Of course you are,in the absense of a brain that is........
BNP ALL THE WAY. Get rid of immigrants... BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP
Posted by: David, Oxford on 7:25pm Fri 25 Jul 08
[quote][bold]cottage2day[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Tom[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]cottage2day[/bold] wrote: BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP!!! I am voting BNP all the way!!![/quote] Of course you are,in the absense of a brain that is........[/quote] BNP ALL THE WAY. Get rid of immigrants... BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP [/quote] It is because of parties like the BNP that immigration is such a taboo subject in politics.
cottage2day wrote:
Tom wrote:
cottage2day wrote: BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP!!! I am voting BNP all the way!!!
Of course you are,in the absense of a brain that is........
BNP ALL THE WAY. Get rid of immigrants... BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP
It is because of parties like the BNP that immigration is such a taboo subject in politics.
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 8:37pm Fri 25 Jul 08
We surely need a few Mp's to represent England,too many representing the Yids for our liking.
We surely need a few Mp's to represent England,too many representing the Yids for our liking.
Posted by: No More Tories on 9:17pm Fri 25 Jul 08
Just remember: Thatcher, corruption and 15% interest rates. Do we really want that again? Tories are arrogant selfish arseholes....just look at how Tony Baldry has turned into a Mr Bumble look-a-like! Every one to the workhouse!
Just remember: Thatcher, corruption and 15% interest rates. Do we really want that again? Tories are arrogant selfish arseholes....just look at how Tony Baldry has turned into a Mr Bumble look-a-like! Every one to the workhouse!
Posted by: C on 10:29am Sun 27 Jul 08
I'd love to get rid of the useless great oaf we have for Prime Minister, but I really feel caught between a rock and a hard place: I still remember the Thatcher years clearly and the thought of the Conservatives being in power again terrifies me.
I'd love to get rid of the useless great oaf we have for Prime Minister, but I really feel caught between a rock and a hard place: I still remember the Thatcher years clearly and the thought of the Conservatives being in power again terrifies me.
Posted by: Ian, Oxfordshire on 6:12pm Sun 27 Jul 08
[quote][bold]cottage2day[/bold] wrote:
BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP!!! I am voting BNP all the way!!![/quote] Dear cottage2day ,
Are You a Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi!!! ?
Plonker !!!
cottage2day wrote:
BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP!!! I am voting BNP all the way!!!
Dear cottage2day ,
Are You a Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi!!! ?
Plonker !!!
Posted by: Mr Britain, Oxford on 8:10am Thu 31 Jul 08
The seat had been one of Labour's safest with a majority of more than 13,500, but a massive swing of over 22% saw the nationalists secure it by a margin of 365.
Is it not odd that the SNP - Scotish Nationolist Party is fine - although they want independance - But the British Nationalist Party is always portraied by the media as being rascist . WE want a Nationolist government - VOTE BNP .
An end to interference form Europe , an end to uncontrolled immigration and an end to sucking up to Islamists
The seat had been one of Labour's safest with a majority of more than 13,500, but a massive swing of over 22% saw the nationalists secure it by a margin of 365.
Is it not odd that the SNP - Scotish Nationolist Party is fine - although they want independance - But the British Nationalist Party is always portraied by the media as being rascist . WE want a Nationolist government - VOTE BNP .
An end to interference form Europe , an end to uncontrolled immigration and an end to sucking up to Islamists
Posted by: The Future, Oxford on 8:17am Thu 31 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Ian[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]cottage2day[/bold] wrote: BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP!!! I am voting BNP all the way!!![/quote] Dear cottage2day , Are You a Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi!!! ? Plonker !!![/quote] And what is wrong with being a Nazi - Nice smart uniforms , every one gets a tank . Adolf Hitler brought a country out of a deep recesion and turned it into a world power , he just went a bit odd towards the end . But he had the conviction to follow through his plans , not like our MP's who are just so many pieces of chaff blowing in the wind
Ian wrote:
cottage2day wrote: BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP BNP!!! I am voting BNP all the way!!!
Dear cottage2day , Are You a Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi Nazi!!! ? Plonker !!!
And what is wrong with being a Nazi - Nice smart uniforms , every one gets a tank . Adolf Hitler brought a country out of a deep recesion and turned it into a world power , he just went a bit odd towards the end . But he had the conviction to follow through his plans , not like our MP's who are just so many pieces of chaff blowing in the wind
Posted by: Ian, Oxfordshire on 8:27pm Thu 31 Jul 08
Dear The Future ,
And You're a bit of a Plonker as well !
Do You have a a Uniform Fetish ? Do You have such a small Willy that You need a Tank as a Phallic Extension ?
Hitler started off by sending thousands of Communists , Socialists & Trade unionists to concentration camps - He then abolished Free Trade Unions & introduced permanent wage freezes in order to destroy all Working Class opposition to Nazism -in the end with noone left to speak out He came for the 6 Million Jews in occupied Europe Who the Nazis
mass-murdered in the Holocaust as part of a war of agression in which 70 million people died - all of which You call being " a bit odd towards the end " .
I agree that most MP's
are corrupt & a waste of space - but We need to develop a Democratic Empowerment of all Our People to fight for Justice for everybody - not the Racist & divisive Hatred of The BNP !
Dear The Future ,
And You're a bit of a Plonker as well !
Do You have a a Uniform Fetish ? Do You have such a small Willy that You need a Tank as a Phallic Extension ?
Hitler started off by sending thousands of Communists , Socialists & Trade unionists to concentration camps - He then abolished Free Trade Unions & introduced permanent wage freezes in order to destroy all Working Class opposition to Nazism -in the end with noone left to speak out He came for the 6 Million Jews in occupied Europe Who the Nazis
mass-murdered in the Holocaust as part of a war of agression in which 70 million people died - all of which You call being " a bit odd towards the end " .
I agree that most MP's
are corrupt & a waste of space - but We need to develop a Democratic Empowerment of all Our People to fight for Justice for everybody - not the Racist & divisive Hatred of The BNP !
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