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South Oxon 'disappointed' at estate plans
South Oxfordshire District Council has reacted with "disappointment" at the news a 4,000-home estate looks like being built on the edge of Oxford.
As exclusively revealed in the Oxford Mail today, Communities Secretary Hazel Blears yesterday gave the go-ahead for a development on land south of Grenoble Road, near the Kassam Stadium.
Although the scheme was out forward by planners working for Oxford City Council, the site actually falls within the south Oxfordshire administrative boundary.
Now, planners from each authority are to met to thrash out a way forward.
Homes could be inhabited as early as 2013
South Oxfordshire district councillor Angie Paterson, cabinet member for planning, said: "This is very disappointing - but not wholly unexpected - news.
"Once the panel charged with looking at the South East Plan had recommended an urban extension to Oxford, I feared it was unlikely the Secretary of State would reject it.
"I remain opposed to the proposal as does the council as a whole.
"We will convene a meeting in the near future with others who oppose this development to discuss how best to respond."
Backers of the Grenoble Road development think the scheme could be a partial solution to Oxford's chronic housing shortages and a better option than building in market towns like Didcot and Bicester, which adjoin the A34.
9:26am Friday 18th July 2008
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CommentPosted by: Ed, Oxford on 9:36am Fri 18 Jul 08
OK, and what about all the extra traffic?
I think if there are to be more houses then bus services to RURAL communities in the area should be funded.
The traffic going toward Didcot and Oxford over Clifton Hampden bridge each day is dreadful (over 5000 vehs) so unless they want to build a new bridge, they will have to do something as the villages can't take all this extra traffic!
OK, and what about all the extra traffic?
I think if there are to be more houses then bus services to RURAL communities in the area should be funded.
The traffic going toward Didcot and Oxford over Clifton Hampden bridge each day is dreadful (over 5000 vehs) so unless they want to build a new bridge, they will have to do something as the villages can't take all this extra traffic!
Posted by: Andrew, Oxford on 9:52am Fri 18 Jul 08
Time to leave Oxford. Too much traffic, too much social housing. Only decent place is Boars Hill, which is too expensive. Too many people poncing off those that provide work and business. It's truly unsustainable.
Time to leave Oxford. Too much traffic, too much social housing. Only decent place is Boars Hill, which is too expensive. Too many people poncing off those that provide work and business. It's truly unsustainable.
Posted by: Peter, Oxford on 10:02am Fri 18 Jul 08
I heard that these plans included a television studio for Jeremy Kyle and Trisha to save the TV company travelling time. Lets face it 99.9% of the next 20 years worth of these shows will come from there.
I heard that these plans included a television studio for Jeremy Kyle and Trisha to save the TV company travelling time. Lets face it 99.9% of the next 20 years worth of these shows will come from there.
Posted by: A Resident and Voter, Oxford on 10:04am Fri 18 Jul 08
An open question to Mr Andrew Smith MP :
Mr Smith are you in favour or against these plans or would you prefer to wait and judge public opinion before coming down on the side of the majority in an attempt to preserve your high salary, expense account and other 'perks' in the next general election ?
An open question to Mr Andrew Smith MP :
Mr Smith are you in favour or against these plans or would you prefer to wait and judge public opinion before coming down on the side of the majority in an attempt to preserve your high salary, expense account and other 'perks' in the next general election ?
Posted by: DanOxford on 11:01am Fri 18 Jul 08
This is entirely in keeping with the selfish 'greens' and wealthy Labour councillors such as Lord Mayor Susanna 'I live in Jericho, went to Sommerville College and enjoy yoga but hate cars' Pressel.
Expand the Universities, gentrify central areas, allow in vast numbers of economic migrants, dump Oxford families on peripheral estates and make them drive at 20mph and pay a fortune in parking if they [bold]DARE[/bold]venture beyond the drab housing estate with minimal facilities, no employment and poor infrastructure.
No-one has the b*lls to tackle the issue that England's green belt is going to sacrificed so that people from poorer Countries can live in the UK, as immigration is going to be the greatest cause of the UK's rapid population growth.
2.3 million immigrants come to UK in 16 years
June 2, 2008
New Government figures have confirmed just how large has been the scale of immigration into the UK in recent years and show that that the vast majority who come to stay are from the third world.
An analysis of the latest immigration statistics from the Office of National Statistics by think-tank Migrationwatch shows that in the years 1991 – 2006 there was a net movement of some 2.3 million people to the UK - only 8% of which came from the new East European members of the EU.
www.migrationwatch.c
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This is entirely in keeping with the selfish 'greens' and wealthy Labour councillors such as Lord Mayor Susanna 'I live in Jericho, went to Sommerville College and enjoy yoga but hate cars' Pressel.
Expand the Universities, gentrify central areas, allow in vast numbers of economic migrants, dump Oxford families on peripheral estates and make them drive at 20mph and pay a fortune in parking if they
DAREventure beyond the drab housing estate with minimal facilities, no employment and poor infrastructure.
No-one has the b*lls to tackle the issue that England's green belt is going to sacrificed so that people from poorer Countries can live in the UK, as immigration is going to be the greatest cause of the UK's rapid population growth.
2.3 million immigrants come to UK in 16 years
June 2, 2008
New Government figures have confirmed just how large has been the scale of immigration into the UK in recent years and show that that the vast majority who come to stay are from the third world.
An analysis of the latest immigration statistics from the Office of National Statistics by think-tank Migrationwatch shows that in the years 1991 – 2006 there was a net movement of some 2.3 million people to the UK - only 8% of which came from the new East European members of the EU.
www.migrationwatch.c
om
Posted by: Eddy Grundy, Ambridge on 11:22am Fri 18 Jul 08
Re the quote from migrationwatch.com
[italic]Letter to the Daily Mail, 6 June 2008
An article in the Daily Mail suggested that some research was a joint effort between MigrationWatch and ONS. The National Statistician wrote to point this was not the case.
Issue date: 06 June 2008
Type: Letter to the Press
Sir
Your report ‘Third World migrants behind our 2.3m population boom’ (2 June) wrongly attributes this study to joint research between the Office for National Statistics (ONS) and MigrationWatch. ONS was not involved in, or consulted about, the analysis. The research does make use of ONS figures, but we have reservations about the analysis.
Yours faithfully
Karen Dunnell
National Statistician
Office for National Statistics
Government Buildings
Cardiff Road
Newport NR10 8XG[/italic]
Re the quote from migrationwatch.com
Letter to the Daily Mail, 6 June 2008
An article in the Daily Mail suggested that some research was a joint effort between MigrationWatch and ONS. The National Statistician wrote to point this was not the case.
Issue date: 06 June 2008
Type: Letter to the Press
Sir
Your report ‘Third World migrants behind our 2.3m population boom’ (2 June) wrongly attributes this study to joint research between the Office for National Statistics (ONS) and MigrationWatch. ONS was not involved in, or consulted about, the analysis. The research does make use of ONS figures, but we have reservations about the analysis.
Yours faithfully
Karen Dunnell
National Statistician
Office for National Statistics
Government Buildings
Cardiff Road
Newport NR10 8XG Posted by: Sarah Cornwell, Oxford on 11:53am Fri 18 Jul 08
Good to see that all the usual nimbys who have no idea what they are talking about are at it already. This is the best news that Oxford could have. It is good for the environment - why on earth is it better for people to drive from outside Oxford from places like Bicester, Didcot and Abingdon rather than bus and bike from within Oxford to get to work?
It's good for people who want to get a foot on the property ladder and it's good for people who are living in overcrowded homes in Oxford.
Hooray!
Good to see that all the usual nimbys who have no idea what they are talking about are at it already. This is the best news that Oxford could have. It is good for the environment - why on earth is it better for people to drive from outside Oxford from places like Bicester, Didcot and Abingdon rather than bus and bike from within Oxford to get to work?
It's good for people who want to get a foot on the property ladder and it's good for people who are living in overcrowded homes in Oxford.
Hooray!
Posted by: DanOxford on 11:56am Fri 18 Jul 08
[italic]I have made this point many times before but can we please stop saying that Migrationwatch forecasts are wrong. I have pointed out before that Migrationwatch assumptions are often below the Government Actuarys Department high migration variant. (29 July 2003)[/italic]
An internal Home Office email they were obliged to release to MigrationWatch
Seriously though- walk around (gentrified) Jericho or (ghetto slum) Cowley Road, and the answer to why there is a 'desperate shortage' of housing for Oxford people is blindingly obvious.
I have made this point many times before but can we please stop saying that Migrationwatch forecasts are wrong. I have pointed out before that Migrationwatch assumptions are often below the Government Actuarys Department high migration variant. (29 July 2003)
An internal Home Office email they were obliged to release to MigrationWatch
Seriously though- walk around (gentrified) Jericho or (ghetto slum) Cowley Road, and the answer to why there is a 'desperate shortage' of housing for Oxford people is blindingly obvious.
Posted by: No More Rogue Landlords and BLT, Oxford on 12:01pm Fri 18 Jul 08
If 4000 new homes are to be built on the boundary of Oxford, then please ensure that these go to those who need a home and are not snapped up by the greedy BUY-to_LETTERs (BLTs), or the rogue landlords.
Otherwise, we will still have the chronic shortage of homes for families.
If 4000 new homes are to be built on the boundary of Oxford, then please ensure that these go to those who need a home and are not snapped up by the greedy BUY-to_LETTERs (BLTs), or the rogue landlords.
Otherwise, we will still have the chronic shortage of homes for families.
Posted by: Eddy Grundy, Ambridge on 12:30pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[italic]I have made this point many times before but can we please stop saying that Migrationwatch forecasts are wrong. I have pointed out before that Migrationwatch assumptions are often below the Government Actuarys Department high migration variant. (29 July 2003)[/italic]
Yes, I saw that quote from their website as well but can't seem to find any history behind it.
I DO think it's important to find the TRUE figures behind the housing shortage and not simply to accept untrustworthy evidence. Otherwise it simply gives fuel to those who just want to rant about "foreigners".
I have made this point many times before but can we please stop saying that Migrationwatch forecasts are wrong. I have pointed out before that Migrationwatch assumptions are often below the Government Actuarys Department high migration variant. (29 July 2003)
Yes, I saw that quote from their website as well but can't seem to find any history behind it.
I DO think it's important to find the TRUE figures behind the housing shortage and not simply to accept untrustworthy evidence. Otherwise it simply gives fuel to those who just want to rant about "foreigners".
Posted by: Laura, oxford on 12:50pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Great! Looks like Greater Leys / Black Bird Leys rough people will be getting closer to the lovely Sandford on Thames!
Great! Looks like Greater Leys / Black Bird Leys rough people will be getting closer to the lovely Sandford on Thames!
Posted by: Sarah Cornwell, Oxford on 12:58pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Yes there is a clear reason why there is a shortage of housing in Oxford: it is a very desirable place to live and for years the number of homes that could be built here has been severely restricted by the inability to build more than a handful at a time because of the green belt strangling the city.
And if the new development ends up being as balanced as Jericho and Blackbird Leys (both communities about 1/3 owner occupier, 1/3 social housing and 1/3 private rented) then that will be good too. There is a need for private rented housing too: or do you think everyone who lives in Oxford should be rich enough to buy their own place?
Yes there is a clear reason why there is a shortage of housing in Oxford: it is a very desirable place to live and for years the number of homes that could be built here has been severely restricted by the inability to build more than a handful at a time because of the green belt strangling the city.
And if the new development ends up being as balanced as Jericho and Blackbird Leys (both communities about 1/3 owner occupier, 1/3 social housing and 1/3 private rented) then that will be good too. There is a need for private rented housing too: or do you think everyone who lives in Oxford should be rich enough to buy their own place?
Posted by: Eddy Grundy, Ambridge on 1:04pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Well said Sarah.
Posted by: Helen, Oxford on 1:15pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote]do you think everyone who lives in Oxford should be rich enough to buy their own place?[/quote] If there were more houses available for purchase, perhaps the price would come down, so some of the ordinary workers in Oxford who have to commute from Abingdon, Bicester, Didcot, Witney et al could afford to buy closer to town. Isn't it the student lets that force up the prices, as there are so few ordinary homes available to buy?
do you think everyone who lives in Oxford should be rich enough to buy their own place?
If there were more houses available for purchase, perhaps the price would come down, so some of the ordinary workers in Oxford who have to commute from Abingdon, Bicester, Didcot, Witney et al could afford to buy closer to town. Isn't it the student lets that force up the prices, as there are so few ordinary homes available to buy?
Posted by: Alan Page, Guildford on 1:15pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Sarah Cornwell[/bold] wrote:
Yes there is a clear reason why there is a shortage of housing in Oxford: it is a very desirable place to live and for years the number of homes that could be built here has been severely restricted by the inability to build more than a handful at a time because of the green belt strangling the city. And if the new development ends up being as balanced as Jericho and Blackbird Leys (both communities about 1/3 owner occupier, 1/3 social housing and 1/3 private rented) then that will be good too. There is a need for private rented housing too: or do you think everyone who lives in Oxford should be rich enough to buy their own place? [/quote] But surely "private rented housing" has been bought?
And ideally everybody living there should have the opportunity to acquire such properties for themselves rather than having the properties looked upon as rich pickings by outside buy to letters.
Sarah Cornwell wrote:
Yes there is a clear reason why there is a shortage of housing in Oxford: it is a very desirable place to live and for years the number of homes that could be built here has been severely restricted by the inability to build more than a handful at a time because of the green belt strangling the city. And if the new development ends up being as balanced as Jericho and Blackbird Leys (both communities about 1/3 owner occupier, 1/3 social housing and 1/3 private rented) then that will be good too. There is a need for private rented housing too: or do you think everyone who lives in Oxford should be rich enough to buy their own place?
But surely "private rented housing" has been bought?
And ideally everybody living there should have the opportunity to acquire such properties for themselves rather than having the properties looked upon as rich pickings by outside buy to letters.
Posted by: Alan Page, Guildford on 1:15pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Sarah Cornwell[/bold] wrote:
Yes there is a clear reason why there is a shortage of housing in Oxford: it is a very desirable place to live and for years the number of homes that could be built here has been severely restricted by the inability to build more than a handful at a time because of the green belt strangling the city. And if the new development ends up being as balanced as Jericho and Blackbird Leys (both communities about 1/3 owner occupier, 1/3 social housing and 1/3 private rented) then that will be good too. There is a need for private rented housing too: or do you think everyone who lives in Oxford should be rich enough to buy their own place? [/quote] But surely "private rented housing" has been bought?
And ideally everybody living there should have the opportunity to acquire such properties for themselves rather than having the properties looked upon as rich pickings by outside buy to letters.
Sarah Cornwell wrote:
Yes there is a clear reason why there is a shortage of housing in Oxford: it is a very desirable place to live and for years the number of homes that could be built here has been severely restricted by the inability to build more than a handful at a time because of the green belt strangling the city. And if the new development ends up being as balanced as Jericho and Blackbird Leys (both communities about 1/3 owner occupier, 1/3 social housing and 1/3 private rented) then that will be good too. There is a need for private rented housing too: or do you think everyone who lives in Oxford should be rich enough to buy their own place?
But surely "private rented housing" has been bought?
And ideally everybody living there should have the opportunity to acquire such properties for themselves rather than having the properties looked upon as rich pickings by outside buy to letters.
Posted by: Helen, Oxford on 1:18pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Will miracles never cease? I agree with Alan!
Will miracles never cease? I agree with Alan!
Posted by: MW, Oxford on 1:32pm Fri 18 Jul 08
I agree there is a chronic shortage of houses (no body can dispute that) and the houses have to be built somewhere, yes some will be in people back yards, but is a development such as this not a good thing, so we can meet the housing target rather than resorting to building on every piece of garden land, or knocking down nice houses to put blocks of flats.
I agree there is a chronic shortage of houses (no body can dispute that) and the houses have to be built somewhere, yes some will be in people back yards, but is a development such as this not a good thing, so we can meet the housing target rather than resorting to building on every piece of garden land, or knocking down nice houses to put blocks of flats.
Posted by: Robert Walker, Oxford on 2:09pm Fri 18 Jul 08
What's wrong with letting the likes of us BTLs (buy-to-lets) allowing there to be a healthy rental market in a location which ought to feel lucky that it's got such a buoyant market? The property values are insulated from national trends by the large hospital staff and student populations which bring the area the wealth it enjoys. Leave us be with our sound investments.
What's wrong with letting the likes of us BTLs (buy-to-lets) allowing there to be a healthy rental market in a location which ought to feel lucky that it's got such a buoyant market? The property values are insulated from national trends by the large hospital staff and student populations which bring the area the wealth it enjoys. Leave us be with our sound investments.
Posted by: Ed, Oxford on 2:48pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Because, Robert, it deprives the rest of us from owning a house, and only provides you with another house and healthy income. Nice "work" if you can get it.
There are many young people who can't get on the housing ladder because too many people BLT and reduce the housing stock, pushing up the price of housing.
Perhaps you don't care about the next generation or two. You know - the ones who will be paying your pension, etc?
Because, Robert, it deprives the rest of us from owning a house, and only provides you with another house and healthy income. Nice "work" if you can get it.
There are many young people who can't get on the housing ladder because too many people BLT and reduce the housing stock, pushing up the price of housing.
Perhaps you don't care about the next generation or two. You know - the ones who will be paying your pension, etc?
Posted by: Ed, Oxford on 2:50pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Plus it's only a sound investment if you can rent it for more that the mortgage costs...something you're going to struggle with if this "credit crunch" goes on..
Then you'll have to sell it and you might even lose out. What a shame.
Plus it's only a sound investment if you can rent it for more that the mortgage costs...something you're going to struggle with if this "credit crunch" goes on..
Then you'll have to sell it and you might even lose out. What a shame.
Posted by: Eddy Grundy, Ambridge on 3:04pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Methinks Robert Walker is successful windup merchant...
Methinks Robert Walker is successful windup merchant...
Posted by: J, oxford on 3:39pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Where the h*ll is all the traffic going to go.
4000 houses = at least 4000 cars, probably more! There's no way that junction onto the ringroad/A34 can support any more traffic!
Where the h*ll is all the traffic going to go.
4000 houses = at least 4000 cars, probably more! There's no way that junction onto the ringroad/A34 can support any more traffic!
Posted by: MW, Oxford on 3:40pm Fri 18 Jul 08
If people want something enough they will get it. What is wrong with people having BTLs. The only people that complain about it are people who think they cant afford houses.
I earned £15k a year and skrimped and saved for 2 years, got a deposit and bought a 3 bed house in East Oxford.
Why do people expect everything to be given to them on a plate. If you want to p*ss it up a wall every Friday night then do it, just dont complain when someone sees a good opportunity that you missed out on.
BTLs are an important part of the economy; not everyone wants to own their own home, and there are plenty of houses for sale for all budgets.
If people want something enough they will get it. What is wrong with people having BTLs. The only people that complain about it are people who think they cant afford houses.
I earned £15k a year and skrimped and saved for 2 years, got a deposit and bought a 3 bed house in East Oxford.
Why do people expect everything to be given to them on a plate. If you want to p*ss it up a wall every Friday night then do it, just dont complain when someone sees a good opportunity that you missed out on.
BTLs are an important part of the economy; not everyone wants to own their own home, and there are plenty of houses for sale for all budgets.
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 3:54pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Certainly slums are New Labour policy.
Certainly slums are New Labour policy.
Posted by: Ed, Oxford on 4:06pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]MW[/bold] wrote:
If people want something enough they will get it. What is wrong with people having BTLs. The only people that complain about it are people who think they cant afford houses.
I earned £15k a year and skrimped and saved for 2 years, got a deposit and bought a 3 bed house in East Oxford.
Why do people expect everything to be given to them on a plate. If you want to p*ss it up a wall every Friday night then do it, just dont complain when someone sees a good opportunity that you missed out on.
BTLs are an important part of the economy; not everyone wants to own their own home, and there are plenty of houses for sale for all budgets.[/quote] When was that, MW?
If you can earn £15k a year in 2008 and buy any property in Oxford, not to mention pay the council tax and bills, then you are a better man than I - and the rest of the population.
Think before you speak such nonsense!
MW wrote:
If people want something enough they will get it. What is wrong with people having BTLs. The only people that complain about it are people who think they cant afford houses.
I earned £15k a year and skrimped and saved for 2 years, got a deposit and bought a 3 bed house in East Oxford.
Why do people expect everything to be given to them on a plate. If you want to p*ss it up a wall every Friday night then do it, just dont complain when someone sees a good opportunity that you missed out on.
BTLs are an important part of the economy; not everyone wants to own their own home, and there are plenty of houses for sale for all budgets.
When was that, MW?
If you can earn £15k a year in 2008 and buy any property in Oxford, not to mention pay the council tax and bills, then you are a better man than I - and the rest of the population.
Think before you speak such nonsense!
Posted by: Mr Ison, Stongehenge on 4:17pm Fri 18 Jul 08
New Labour Vices eh,who needs 'em.
New Labour Vices eh,who needs 'em.
Posted by: anon, OXON on 4:21pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]MW[/bold] wrote:
I agree there is a chronic shortage of houses (no body can dispute that) and the houses have to be built somewhere, yes some will be in people back yards, but is a development such as this not a good thing, so we can meet the housing target rather than resorting to building on every piece of garden land, or knocking down nice houses to put blocks of flats.[/quote] There are empty houses across the country. Investment needs to be put in communities which have been effected by industrial change.
Housing & employment go hand in hand Enouragement for businesses to go into these areas must be done.
For to long our area has been developed for the computers into London.
There are some that will not be happy until our area is under concrete completely.
MW wrote:
I agree there is a chronic shortage of houses (no body can dispute that) and the houses have to be built somewhere, yes some will be in people back yards, but is a development such as this not a good thing, so we can meet the housing target rather than resorting to building on every piece of garden land, or knocking down nice houses to put blocks of flats.
There are empty houses across the country. Investment needs to be put in communities which have been effected by industrial change.
Housing & employment go hand in hand Enouragement for businesses to go into these areas must be done.
For to long our area has been developed for the computers into London.
There are some that will not be happy until our area is under concrete completely.
Posted by: MW, Oxford on 4:49pm Fri 18 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Ed[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]MW[/bold] wrote: If people want something enough they will get it. What is wrong with people having BTLs. The only people that complain about it are people who think they cant afford houses. I earned £15k a year and skrimped and saved for 2 years, got a deposit and bought a 3 bed house in East Oxford. Why do people expect everything to be given to them on a plate. If you want to p*ss it up a wall every Friday night then do it, just dont complain when someone sees a good opportunity that you missed out on. BTLs are an important part of the economy; not everyone wants to own their own home, and there are plenty of houses for sale for all budgets.[/quote] When was that, MW? If you can earn £15k a year in 2008 and buy any property in Oxford, not to mention pay the council tax and bills, then you are a better man than I - and the rest of the population. Think before you speak such nonsense! [/quote] I must be a better man than you...
For the record this was 2 years ago, I now earn c£17k and have to pay bills, mortgage like the rest of the population.
Enjoy your drink tonight! :)
Ed wrote:
MW wrote: If people want something enough they will get it. What is wrong with people having BTLs. The only people that complain about it are people who think they cant afford houses. I earned £15k a year and skrimped and saved for 2 years, got a deposit and bought a 3 bed house in East Oxford. Why do people expect everything to be given to them on a plate. If you want to p*ss it up a wall every Friday night then do it, just dont complain when someone sees a good opportunity that you missed out on. BTLs are an important part of the economy; not everyone wants to own their own home, and there are plenty of houses for sale for all budgets.
When was that, MW? If you can earn £15k a year in 2008 and buy any property in Oxford, not to mention pay the council tax and bills, then you are a better man than I - and the rest of the population. Think before you speak such nonsense!
I must be a better man than you...
For the record this was 2 years ago, I now earn c£17k and have to pay bills, mortgage like the rest of the population.
Enjoy your drink tonight! :)
Posted by: Ed, Oxford on 5:11pm Fri 18 Jul 08
Ah but I don't drink. I still can't afford a house though. Do you mind sharing your secrets?
Your take home pay will be around £1130 a month, council tax around £100, bills around £250, food £100, mortgage payment...£700 (?)...leaves you with 50 quid or so?
That is good going. Well done you.
Ah but I don't drink. I still can't afford a house though. Do you mind sharing your secrets?
Your take home pay will be around £1130 a month, council tax around £100, bills around £250, food £100, mortgage payment...£700 (?)...leaves you with 50 quid or so?
That is good going. Well done you.
Posted by: ricky, Oxford on 10:25pm Fri 18 Jul 08
greater greater leys?move the football ground away from the community in headington,now move the community around the football ground ,great move occ?
greater greater leys?move the football ground away from the community in headington,now move the community around the football ground ,great move occ?
Posted by: Sid Hunt on 9:52am Sat 19 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Sarah Cornwell[/bold] wrote:
Yes there is a clear reason why there is a shortage of housing in Oxford: it is a very desirable place to live and for years the number of homes that could be built here has been severely restricted by the inability to build more than a handful at a time because of the green belt strangling the city. And if the new development ends up being as balanced as Jericho and Blackbird Leys (both communities about 1/3 owner occupier, 1/3 social housing and 1/3 private rented) then that will be good too. There is a need for private rented housing too: or do you think everyone who lives in Oxford should be rich enough to buy their own place? [/quote] [bold]it is a very desirable place to live and for years the number of homes that could be built here has been severely restricted by the inability to build more than a handful at a time because of the green belt strangling the city.[/bold]
Do you not think that the reason it is desirable is due to the fact that the green belt makes it so? If the development of Oxford has been hampered it is due to the overbearing influence of the university.
Sarah Cornwell wrote:
Yes there is a clear reason why there is a shortage of housing in Oxford: it is a very desirable place to live and for years the number of homes that could be built here has been severely restricted by the inability to build more than a handful at a time because of the green belt strangling the city. And if the new development ends up being as balanced as Jericho and Blackbird Leys (both communities about 1/3 owner occupier, 1/3 social housing and 1/3 private rented) then that will be good too. There is a need for private rented housing too: or do you think everyone who lives in Oxford should be rich enough to buy their own place?
it is a very desirable place to live and for years the number of homes that could be built here has been severely restricted by the inability to build more than a handful at a time because of the green belt strangling the city.
Do you not think that the reason it is desirable is due to the fact that the green belt makes it so? If the development of Oxford has been hampered it is due to the overbearing influence of the university.
Posted by: Tom on 4:02pm Sat 19 Jul 08
Chavs need somewhere to live too while they reproduce like rabbits.
Chavs need somewhere to live too while they reproduce like rabbits.
Posted by: andrew, Oxford on 5:20pm Sat 19 Jul 08
I earn £10k a month net. My mortgage is £2k, the rest goes on schooling, cars and holidays. But I still cant afford the 6 bed house I want tin Boars Hill. To me, that's injustice.
I earn £10k a month net. My mortgage is £2k, the rest goes on schooling, cars and holidays. But I still cant afford the 6 bed house I want tin Boars Hill. To me, that's injustice.
Posted by: Tom on 5:37pm Sat 19 Jul 08
[quote][bold]andrew[/bold] wrote:
I earn £10k a month net. My mortgage is £2k, the rest goes on schooling, cars and holidays. But I still cant afford the 6 bed house I want tin Boars Hill. To me, that\'s injustice.[/quote] of course you do.............
doctor!,the patient needs more medication quickly.
andrew wrote:
I earn £10k a month net. My mortgage is £2k, the rest goes on schooling, cars and holidays. But I still cant afford the 6 bed house I want tin Boars Hill. To me, that\'s injustice.
of course you do.............
doctor!,the patient needs more medication quickly.
Posted by: Peter, Oxford on 10:25am Sun 20 Jul 08
[quote]I earn £10k a month net. My mortgage is £2k, the rest goes on schooling, cars and holidays.[/quote]
Yes but Mr Smith when are you going to answer my question above - oh and I bet you haven't included your expenses in this figure have you ?
I earn £10k a month net. My mortgage is £2k, the rest goes on schooling, cars and holidays.
Yes but Mr Smith when are you going to answer my question above - oh and I bet you haven't included your expenses in this figure have you ?
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