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| Brooke Purvis, left, and Mark Griffiths |
At least 50 vehicles are expected to take part in a planned go-slow blockade along the M40 in Oxfordshire - the county's first protest against the spiralling cost of petrol.
Next weekend Oxfordshire cabbies Brooke Purvis and Mark Griffiths are organising a protest from Oxford Services to Downing Street in central London and have been using Internet forums to spread the word.
And last night they urged motorists to join the protest. Mr Griffiths said: "The protest is not just for taxi drivers. It's for everybody to show their disdain for what's happening. We are expecting to get at least 50 motorists - we want to show a united front."
Mr Purvis, from Carterton, said similar protests were planned in Scotland, Manchester, Bristol, Nottingham and Derby.
The 31-year-old said the high price of fuel had left many taxi drivers disillusioned, but insisted the go-slow protest was a chance for the whole county to send a message to the Government. He said: "I was talking to an Oxford cabbie the other day and he said he was bringing in about £900 a week before tax, insurance and expenses, whereas he was getting about £1,500 six months ago.
"Taxi drivers are suffering because everyone is spending more at home. We want to get people out into the towns, but the price of everything has rocketed because it's linked to fuel.
"If the Government reduced fuel tax and VAT, the price of everything would come down.
"It's a simple solution and I know politics is more complicated, but if you reduce fuel tax it will bring down the price of food and strengthen the economy."
Mr Purvis said this time last year he made good money in Witney and Oxford on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday nights. Now, he said, only Saturday nights brought in much profit.
Witney-based Mr Griffiths, a taxi driver for eight years, added: "We don't get any sort of rebate at all and we are in a position where we can only charge a certain amount of money to our customers.
"There has been a 30p increase of fuel in the last year alone - we can't put that on customers because they are in the same boat."
Through word of mouth and internet sites Facebook and britainsrevolting.com, the two cabbies have contacted more than 100 taxi drivers in west Oxfordshire, as well as countless ordinary motorists.
The protesters plan to meet at Oxford Services, at junction 8A on the M40, on Saturday at 11am.
Police have advised them not to travel slower than 40mph, Mr Purvis said.
A Highways Agency spokesman added: "If protests occur, we will work to inform drivers about delays and to advise on alternative routes."
However, not all taxi drivers in the county support the go-slow protest. Alan Woodward, secretary of the Oxford City Licenced Taxicab Association, said: "I don't think a fuel protest is going to do much. It's up to taxi drivers to apply to local authorities to have fares increased.
"The cost should be passed to the people that use the service.
"If your client business is reducing, why take the service away from them to protest about your own costs increasing?
"We have never agreed with protesting about the cost of fuel."
6:19am Monday 14th July 2008
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CommentPosted by: Warrior on 7:13am Mon 14 Jul 08
I'm as angry about the current price of fuel as anyone else but how can blocking a motorway with a 'go slow' be an effective protest? It is an extremely effective technique p*ssing off thousands of road users who have no say as to what the price of fuel shall be!
These blokes organising this protest should be nicked for causing an obstruction if this goes ahead!
I'm as angry about the current price of fuel as anyone else but how can blocking a motorway with a 'go slow' be an effective protest? It is an extremely effective technique p*ssing off thousands of road users who have no say as to what the price of fuel shall be!
These blokes organising this protest should be nicked for causing an obstruction if this goes ahead!
Posted by: david cameron-young, abingdon on 7:55am Mon 14 Jul 08
everyone who drives has a say in the price of fuel. if everyone decided NOT to buy fuel for a week, then there would be serious problems. garages wouldn't make money, the govt would get no tax, but also, fuel would not move from refineries, and therefore ships would not get unloaded. all these things add up to a major headache for oil companies. p*ssing folk off by holding up their journey is not the way to go i'm afraid. the government have to act soon or else it is certain meltdown for this country. they are being far too greedy. people wouldn't mind so much if what the govt gets in fuel tax and car tax was spent on the roads and public transport, but we keep sending aid abroad when we need it here. come on gordon, get your priorities right.
everyone who drives has a say in the price of fuel. if everyone decided NOT to buy fuel for a week, then there would be serious problems. garages wouldn't make money, the govt would get no tax, but also, fuel would not move from refineries, and therefore ships would not get unloaded. all these things add up to a major headache for oil companies. p*ssing folk off by holding up their journey is not the way to go i'm afraid. the government have to act soon or else it is certain meltdown for this country. they are being far too greedy. people wouldn't mind so much if what the govt gets in fuel tax and car tax was spent on the roads and public transport, but we keep sending aid abroad when we need it here. come on gordon, get your priorities right.
Posted by: Tim, oxford on 8:27am Mon 14 Jul 08
The bottom line is, the price of petrol and all the extra taxes is paying for the war in Iraq and Afganistan, so don't see them changing anything,
It is funny, they went to war to get rid of Saddam, for killing his own people, and here we have Mugabe doing exactly the same, but don't see Britain and the US invading Zimbabwe, reason = NO OIL,
The bottom line is, the price of petrol and all the extra taxes is paying for the war in Iraq and Afganistan, so don't see them changing anything,
It is funny, they went to war to get rid of Saddam, for killing his own people, and here we have Mugabe doing exactly the same, but don't see Britain and the US invading Zimbabwe, reason = NO OIL,
Posted by: Simon, Oxford on 8:40am Mon 14 Jul 08
Will join.
When and where is the meeting-up place?
Will join.
When and where is the meeting-up place?
Posted by: Bogota Bob, Cook Islands on 9:00am Mon 14 Jul 08
Oh the bad old government - ok so we cut the tax on fuel like everyone wants (conveniently ignoring that ALL of the recent price hike over the £1 litre was the oil cartels and not the government). Do you think they won't add this tax somewhere else - VAT, PAYE, Ciggy/Beer duty Council Tax - you name it, they'll add it somewhere else so you'll be no better off, and although petrol is cheaper to buy, you'll be hit somewhere else and the juggling act that is economics.
As much as we want to not buy fuel for a week to show the oil companies we mean business, in this case the tail doesnt wag the dog because the dog knows we are so addicted to using oil that we can't give up. As oil becomes harder to get, it will become more expensive and those who can afford it will pay £5 a litre. Oil will run out, and within our lifetimes, even if the government removed all duty from fuel, within 10 years we could well be paying the same price per litre without duty.
Oh the bad old government - ok so we cut the tax on fuel like everyone wants (conveniently ignoring that ALL of the recent price hike over the £1 litre was the oil cartels and not the government). Do you think they won't add this tax somewhere else - VAT, PAYE, Ciggy/Beer duty Council Tax - you name it, they'll add it somewhere else so you'll be no better off, and although petrol is cheaper to buy, you'll be hit somewhere else and the juggling act that is economics.
As much as we want to not buy fuel for a week to show the oil companies we mean business, in this case the tail doesnt wag the dog because the dog knows we are so addicted to using oil that we can't give up. As oil becomes harder to get, it will become more expensive and those who can afford it will pay £5 a litre. Oil will run out, and within our lifetimes, even if the government removed all duty from fuel, within 10 years we could well be paying the same price per litre without duty.
Posted by: not a green tree hugger, Oxford on 9:19am Mon 14 Jul 08
Not buy fuel for a week? Get real, remember what happened when there was the shortage of fuel from a couple of companies for a few days.
The bottom line is that we have become so dependent on fuel the inevitable has happened as stocks and reserves dwindle- supply and demand takes over and we get squeezed hard. (just like taxi prices in the small hours!)
As for the taxi drivers go slow, typical selfish behaviour. I look forward to them getting held up and stopped from getting on with their business when the next group decides to,inconvenience others.
How about a cyclists demo and go slow in the city centre - to protest about taxi drivers and bus drivers polluting a supposedly pedestrian priority area?
Not buy fuel for a week? Get real, remember what happened when there was the shortage of fuel from a couple of companies for a few days.
The bottom line is that we have become so dependent on fuel the inevitable has happened as stocks and reserves dwindle- supply and demand takes over and we get squeezed hard. (just like taxi prices in the small hours!)
As for the taxi drivers go slow, typical selfish behaviour. I look forward to them getting held up and stopped from getting on with their business when the next group decides to,inconvenience others.
How about a cyclists demo and go slow in the city centre - to protest about taxi drivers and bus drivers polluting a supposedly pedestrian priority area?
Posted by: Mark Griffiths, Carterton on 9:22am Mon 14 Jul 08
It's Oxford Services, junction 8A M40, Saturday 19th at 3 pm.
It's Oxford Services, junction 8A M40, Saturday 19th at 3 pm.
Posted by: Brooke Purvis, Witney on 9:30am Mon 14 Jul 08
Meeting place is at the M40 services at 11 am on Saturday the 19th of July. They didn't mention that we'd be delivering a letter to downing street for the PM.
As for the price of oil, we currently in the U.K have the cheapest oil in europe, the government add tax to it which makes it the most expensive in the world. I don't have the correct figures for now but six months ago 70% of the cost of a liter of petrol was tax. The government can reduce the duty on fuel and still have what they budjeted for with the vat thats left on top. they are currently claiming a massive windfall of VAT on the raised prices of fuel, they can do something about it without it affecting anything else. Lets not forget the VAT thats added to everything else you buy as well at the now higher prices because of fuel. The government are cleaning up at the moment with no regard to Britians Country folk.
Meeting place is at the M40 services at 11 am on Saturday the 19th of July. They didn't mention that we'd be delivering a letter to downing street for the PM.
As for the price of oil, we currently in the U.K have the cheapest oil in europe, the government add tax to it which makes it the most expensive in the world. I don't have the correct figures for now but six months ago 70% of the cost of a liter of petrol was tax. The government can reduce the duty on fuel and still have what they budjeted for with the vat thats left on top. they are currently claiming a massive windfall of VAT on the raised prices of fuel, they can do something about it without it affecting anything else. Lets not forget the VAT thats added to everything else you buy as well at the now higher prices because of fuel. The government are cleaning up at the moment with no regard to Britians Country folk.
Posted by: Joe, Marston Road on 9:37am Mon 14 Jul 08
What point is being made by this approach?
All that is happening is that they will cause misery for normal travellers; perhaps visiting family or friends or taking their children out for a treat day out.
(Which in the current financial climate are much rarer than in the past)!
This protest is just providing the Government with more fuel tax and causing expense to the participants.
Possible/alternative solutiona are beyond me at the moment; a reduction in the tax paid on fuel in the UK, may be a start but; 'Nu Labour' would just think up another stealth tax to pay for the Wars and MP's Expenses!
The problem is worldwide; however be assured that someone, somewhere is making a fortune!
Sadly it is not me.
What point is being made by this approach?
All that is happening is that they will cause misery for normal travellers; perhaps visiting family or friends or taking their children out for a treat day out.
(Which in the current financial climate are much rarer than in the past)!
This protest is just providing the Government with more fuel tax and causing expense to the participants.
Possible/alternative solutiona are beyond me at the moment; a reduction in the tax paid on fuel in the UK, may be a start but; 'Nu Labour' would just think up another stealth tax to pay for the Wars and MP's Expenses!
The problem is worldwide; however be assured that someone, somewhere is making a fortune!
Sadly it is not me.
Posted by: Jack, Oxford on 9:47am Mon 14 Jul 08
Demand is up.
Supply is limited.
Guess what happens - price increases!
Fuel duty is a levy per litre. Not a percentage. For this reason tax as a % of retail price tax is less now than 10 years ago.
But go ahead and block the motorway! Well done. That will learn 'em
Demand is up.
Supply is limited.
Guess what happens - price increases!
Fuel duty is a levy per litre. Not a percentage. For this reason tax as a % of retail price tax is less now than 10 years ago.
But go ahead and block the motorway! Well done. That will learn 'em
Posted by: Cabman, Oxford on 10:19am Mon 14 Jul 08
I shall be driving my taxi from Oxford to Heathrow on Saturday and will now have to either re-arrange to pick-up earlier, or go across country. Thanks guys. Thanks for nothing. As to why these drivers are struggling to earn a crust in what after all is a service industry - I guess the photo says it all.
I shall be driving my taxi from Oxford to Heathrow on Saturday and will now have to either re-arrange to pick-up earlier, or go across country. Thanks guys. Thanks for nothing. As to why these drivers are struggling to earn a crust in what after all is a service industry - I guess the photo says it all.
Posted by: Oxman, Oxford on 10:21am Mon 14 Jul 08
Supply is not limited. It is being withheld by the oil companies in order to increase their profit.
Supply is not limited. It is being withheld by the oil companies in order to increase their profit.
Posted by: Bogota Bob, Cook Islands on 10:26am Mon 14 Jul 08
Petrol in the UK is about the same price as most of Western Europe, only diesel prices differ due to differences in taxation in some countries.
Petrol in the UK is about the same price as most of Western Europe, only diesel prices differ due to differences in taxation in some countries.
Posted by: DanOxford on 10:33am Mon 14 Jul 08
Nearer to the truth is that speculators are pushing the price up- so while you and I decide we can't afford to visit granny or take the kids out as often, someone using the commodities futures market is eyeing up their next porsche.
Obama has promised to tighten up the speculative market if he gets elected and the German government have said much the same.
Think about it: The Saudis say there is no problem with supply; China and India [bold]ARE[/bold] developing but not so that the price of oil [bold]SUDDENLY[/bold] goes up by a third in a few months.
The scare tactics on supply suit the government as they can cream off more tax due to higher prices, and the 'green' loons can wag their fingers and 'demand' ridiculous measures such as a blanket 20mph speed limit across Oxford.
http://blogs.wsj.com
/environmentalcapita
l/2008/06/23/saudis-
or-speculators-oil-p
rice-finger-pointing
-heats-up/
[italic]German leaders are to propose a worldwide ban on oil trading by speculators, blaming the latest spike in crude prices on manipulation by hedge funds.[/italic]
http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/money/main.jh
tml?xml=/money/2008/
05/26/cnoil126.xml
Nearer to the truth is that speculators are pushing the price up- so while you and I decide we can't afford to visit granny or take the kids out as often, someone using the commodities futures market is eyeing up their next porsche.
Obama has promised to tighten up the speculative market if he gets elected and the German government have said much the same.
Think about it: The Saudis say there is no problem with supply; China and India
ARE developing but not so that the price of oil
SUDDENLY goes up by a third in a few months.
The scare tactics on supply suit the government as they can cream off more tax due to higher prices, and the 'green' loons can wag their fingers and 'demand' ridiculous measures such as a blanket 20mph speed limit across Oxford.
http://blogs.wsj.com
/environmentalcapita
l/2008/06/23/saudis-
or-speculators-oil-p
rice-finger-pointing
-heats-up/
German leaders are to propose a worldwide ban on oil trading by speculators, blaming the latest spike in crude prices on manipulation by hedge funds.
http://www.telegraph
.co.uk/money/main.jh
tml?xml=/money/2008/
05/26/cnoil126.xml
Posted by: private eye, M40 on 10:50am Mon 14 Jul 08
Taxi drivers are always moaning yet most of them are on the fiddle. They submit their accounts for their housing benefit claim saying that they charged £3.50 for a fare from Oxford to Headington when it actually cost the best part of a tenner. What's up with the fat lad in the photo? Scared that he won't have enough for his daily full english at greasy Joe's.
I've got no sympathy for them and their actions will just alienate the public further. Knobs.
Taxi drivers are always moaning yet most of them are on the fiddle. They submit their accounts for their housing benefit claim saying that they charged £3.50 for a fare from Oxford to Headington when it actually cost the best part of a tenner. What's up with the fat lad in the photo? Scared that he won't have enough for his daily full english at greasy Joe's.
I've got no sympathy for them and their actions will just alienate the public further. Knobs.
Posted by: Webwatcher, West Oxfordshire on 10:57am Mon 14 Jul 08
I live in Long Hanborough and every morning hundreds of cars leave Hanborough as part of a continuous convey of cars heading eastwards to the M40 and Oxford almost all carrying only the driver. I have offered, via our parsih magazine that is sent to evry home in the parish, the folk of Hanborough the opportunity to take part in a car share scheme. Now I appreciate that car sharing is not suitable for many people but a good proportion do have regular hours and do travel at the same time to and from the park and ride car parks. I took part in a car sharing scheme with 4 other people for nearly 20 years before I retired but of course 30-40 years ago people were not as affluent as they are now.
There has not been one response to my offer. It is obvious that the people of Hanborough are so affluent that they do not need to make fuel costs savings, or else the price of petrol and oil is not high enough yet to make people think how can they economise. Perhaps when current prices have doubled over the next year or so then people will really start to worry.
I live in Long Hanborough and every morning hundreds of cars leave Hanborough as part of a continuous convey of cars heading eastwards to the M40 and Oxford almost all carrying only the driver. I have offered, via our parsih magazine that is sent to evry home in the parish, the folk of Hanborough the opportunity to take part in a car share scheme. Now I appreciate that car sharing is not suitable for many people but a good proportion do have regular hours and do travel at the same time to and from the park and ride car parks. I took part in a car sharing scheme with 4 other people for nearly 20 years before I retired but of course 30-40 years ago people were not as affluent as they are now.
There has not been one response to my offer. It is obvious that the people of Hanborough are so affluent that they do not need to make fuel costs savings, or else the price of petrol and oil is not high enough yet to make people think how can they economise. Perhaps when current prices have doubled over the next year or so then people will really start to worry.
Posted by: Swampsnake, Oxford on 10:57am Mon 14 Jul 08
So you think this is bad. Just wait until Bush has a go at Iran prior to the November election, as he is hinting with his Israelie pals, before he gets the boot. Already Iran has said what they will do in the Straits of Hormuz blocking tankers. What will the price of oil be then?
So to the taxi drivers in this article wanting there five minutes of ''fame'', I use the word fame loosely, consider your own fuel costs in this wasted exercise and also consider the possible annoyance to your fellow cabbies who are doing airport runs on this day.
So you think this is bad. Just wait until Bush has a go at Iran prior to the November election, as he is hinting with his Israelie pals, before he gets the boot. Already Iran has said what they will do in the Straits of Hormuz blocking tankers. What will the price of oil be then?
So to the taxi drivers in this article wanting there five minutes of ''fame'', I use the word fame loosely, consider your own fuel costs in this wasted exercise and also consider the possible annoyance to your fellow cabbies who are doing airport runs on this day.
Posted by: David, wantage on 10:57am Mon 14 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Simon[/bold] wrote:
Will join.
When and where is the meeting-up place?[/quote] [italic]"The protesters plan to meet at Oxford Services, at junction 8A on the M40, on Saturday at 11am."[/italic]
Nice to see you read the article thoroughly and digested all the facts before deciding to cause a nuisance.
Simon wrote:
Will join.
When and where is the meeting-up place?
"The protesters plan to meet at Oxford Services, at junction 8A on the M40, on Saturday at 11am."
Nice to see you read the article thoroughly and digested all the facts before deciding to cause a nuisance.
Posted by: Oxman, Oxford on 11:42am Mon 14 Jul 08
Thanks for the info Dan, appreciated.
It's funny that a lot of people seem very antagonistic towards the protest. It must be nice to have enough disposable income to be able to absorb the rises seen within the cost of motoring.
Thanks for the info Dan, appreciated.
It's funny that a lot of people seem very antagonistic towards the protest. It must be nice to have enough disposable income to be able to absorb the rises seen within the cost of motoring.
Posted by: Dan, Oxford on 11:59am Mon 14 Jul 08
Im glad that ill be in Prague that weekend.
Im glad that ill be in Prague that weekend.
Posted by: Bogota Bob, Cook Islands on 12:17pm Mon 14 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Oxman[/bold] wrote:
Thanks for the info Dan, appreciated. It's funny that a lot of people seem very antagonistic towards the protest. It must be nice to have enough disposable income to be able to absorb the rises seen within the cost of motoring. [/quote] Not all of us do, but in this country some people are now realising that unsustainable lifestyles of commuting 200 miles a day or inefficient distribution because of our impatient "must have it or get there now society" are becoming more expensive.
Oil is a finate fuel, it will run out and it will become so expensive that like early days of motoring, only the wealthy will afford it. It will affect everyone of us, time to wake up and start trying to find sustainable fuel options. (And this comes from a car owner before anybody starts ranting about leftie hippy tree huggers.)
Oxman wrote:
Thanks for the info Dan, appreciated. It's funny that a lot of people seem very antagonistic towards the protest. It must be nice to have enough disposable income to be able to absorb the rises seen within the cost of motoring.
Not all of us do, but in this country some people are now realising that unsustainable lifestyles of commuting 200 miles a day or inefficient distribution because of our impatient "must have it or get there now society" are becoming more expensive.
Oil is a finate fuel, it will run out and it will become so expensive that like early days of motoring, only the wealthy will afford it. It will affect everyone of us, time to wake up and start trying to find sustainable fuel options. (And this comes from a car owner before anybody starts ranting about leftie hippy tree huggers.)
Posted by: Non taxi user, Eynsham on 12:23pm Mon 14 Jul 08
Lets get some facts here:
When compared to the average wage, petrol is cheaper now than it was in the 1970's. FACT.
Yes we can all remember 50p a gallon but allign that £30 a week earnings please.
The reason that people have started to use your taxis less is because people are watching the pennies at the moment and taxi journies are a luxury. Also from Witney there is an excellent cheaper and very frequent bus service. I've come home on that after midnight from Oxford, no problem.
Are you also expecting the government to subsidise taxi drivers and truckers - just like they subsidised coal miners, steel workers ship builders and Rover workers? No I didn't think so. Get real - either work with it or find another job. God I hate f**king hate whining taxi drivers and truckers as well!
Lets get some facts here:
When compared to the average wage, petrol is cheaper now than it was in the 1970's. FACT.
Yes we can all remember 50p a gallon but allign that £30 a week earnings please.
The reason that people have started to use your taxis less is because people are watching the pennies at the moment and taxi journies are a luxury. Also from Witney there is an excellent cheaper and very frequent bus service. I've come home on that after midnight from Oxford, no problem.
Are you also expecting the government to subsidise taxi drivers and truckers - just like they subsidised coal miners, steel workers ship builders and Rover workers? No I didn't think so. Get real - either work with it or find another job. God I hate f**king hate whining taxi drivers and truckers as well!
Posted by: Carl on 12:55pm Mon 14 Jul 08
I cannot believe some of the negative comments on here, for Gods sake open your eyes, You either are all loaded or live in trees whilst reading the Guardian, what people dont quite grasp is that rising fuel and the ridicoulous taxtation affects everyone, from public transport, food prices, taxi's buses - even the emergancy services which will all go up and guess what? be reflected in your council tax bills next year. Instead of slating these organizers get behind them, why are we doing it? so this goverment takes up and takes notice and trust me they will.
This country is Spineless beyond belief and i applaud Brooke for doing something for the general motorist
As for the getting with it or get another job - good point, but remember that when your sat outside that restaurant with your girlfriend/wife etc and your stood in the rain because you cant get that taxi because they've all quit.
get a grip.
I cannot believe some of the negative comments on here, for Gods sake open your eyes, You either are all loaded or live in trees whilst reading the Guardian, what people dont quite grasp is that rising fuel and the ridicoulous taxtation affects everyone, from public transport, food prices, taxi's buses - even the emergancy services which will all go up and guess what? be reflected in your council tax bills next year. Instead of slating these organizers get behind them, why are we doing it? so this goverment takes up and takes notice and trust me they will.
This country is Spineless beyond belief and i applaud Brooke for doing something for the general motorist
As for the getting with it or get another job - good point, but remember that when your sat outside that restaurant with your girlfriend/wife etc and your stood in the rain because you cant get that taxi because they've all quit.
get a grip.
Posted by: Amazed, Abingdon on 1:38pm Mon 14 Jul 08
An Oxford cabbie was taking £1500 a week six months ago is quoted.Don't know why hes worried about the increase in fuel prices!
An Oxford cabbie was taking £1500 a week six months ago is quoted.Don't know why hes worried about the increase in fuel prices!
Posted by: Sir Buttfire, My outside toilet on 2:18pm Mon 14 Jul 08
Someone really ought to invent a methane powered car. You would just sit in it, fart and it goes.
Someone really ought to invent a methane powered car. You would just sit in it, fart and it goes.
Posted by: Andrew, Oxford on 3:40pm Mon 14 Jul 08
Of course, if the motorway and all other 70/60/50 mph speed limits was reduced to 40mph during this period of high fuel prices, fuel would be saved with the lower running speed.
It's likely that people would decide against making unnecessary long journeys too simply because of the time it takes.
Cutting demand will cut the cost.
Of course, if the motorway and all other 70/60/50 mph speed limits was reduced to 40mph during this period of high fuel prices, fuel would be saved with the lower running speed.
It's likely that people would decide against making unnecessary long journeys too simply because of the time it takes.
Cutting demand will cut the cost.
Posted by: CABBOY, oxfordshire on 5:23pm Mon 14 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Amazed[/bold] wrote:
An Oxford cabbie was taking £1500 a week six months ago is quoted.Don't know why hes worried about the increase in fuel prices![/quote] £1500 six months ago!! wake up! When your out goings are as much as you're earning it's actually not worth working, then you go and sign on because you'd get more from benifits paying rent and food bills, then all of a sudden the problem gets loads worse, you have no clue do you? If you're putting in £70 diesel a day it soon adds up, then add on top of that you're servicing costs, the road tax, the insurance, you're mortage payments, you're food bills and you're energy bills at the end of it all £1500 actually isn't that much. Now fast forward to today, you're earning less because people are cutting back and you're energy bills and food bills have sky rocketed and then you have the insult of massively taxed fuel to pay.
Don't know if most of the people on here actually read the articale properly but the protest is for everyone, not just cabbies. And all of you who moan about the protest are jokers because if it did do any good and the price of fuel was dropped you'd also be reaping the benifits, wouldn't be moaniung then would ya? I would suggest you lot reserve some of your comments.
Amazed wrote:
An Oxford cabbie was taking £1500 a week six months ago is quoted.Don't know why hes worried about the increase in fuel prices!
£1500 six months ago!! wake up! When your out goings are as much as you're earning it's actually not worth working, then you go and sign on because you'd get more from benifits paying rent and food bills, then all of a sudden the problem gets loads worse, you have no clue do you? If you're putting in £70 diesel a day it soon adds up, then add on top of that you're servicing costs, the road tax, the insurance, you're mortage payments, you're food bills and you're energy bills at the end of it all £1500 actually isn't that much. Now fast forward to today, you're earning less because people are cutting back and you're energy bills and food bills have sky rocketed and then you have the insult of massively taxed fuel to pay.
Don't know if most of the people on here actually read the articale properly but the protest is for everyone, not just cabbies. And all of you who moan about the protest are jokers because if it did do any good and the price of fuel was dropped you'd also be reaping the benifits, wouldn't be moaniung then would ya? I would suggest you lot reserve some of your comments.
Posted by: con man cam, Kidlington on 5:28pm Mon 14 Jul 08
A man earning £900 per week or £45000 PA is calling out "I cannot afford to work" good job he is not earning the average pay for most other unskilled workers in this metropolis as that is 3 times what most people earn despite the OM saying different it means he is earning £22-50 ph on a 40 hour week and if he is driving for longer than that in a week is he safe to travel with? Is there a limit to how long you can drive in taxis like coaches have.
I would take his Taxi licence away if he caused a delay deliberately on a public road as he earns this massive amount by charging people too much in the first place
The sooner the taxi and private hire businesses are deregulated and allowed a level playing field the better.
A man earning £900 per week or £45000 PA is calling out "I cannot afford to work" good job he is not earning the average pay for most other unskilled workers in this metropolis as that is 3 times what most people earn despite the OM saying different it means he is earning £22-50 ph on a 40 hour week and if he is driving for longer than that in a week is he safe to travel with? Is there a limit to how long you can drive in taxis like coaches have.
I would take his Taxi licence away if he caused a delay deliberately on a public road as he earns this massive amount by charging people too much in the first place
The sooner the taxi and private hire businesses are deregulated and allowed a level playing field the better.
Posted by: CABBOY, oxfordshire on 5:50pm Mon 14 Jul 08
[quote][bold]con man cam[/bold] wrote:
A man earning £900 per week or £45000 PA is calling out \"I cannot afford to work\" good job he is not earning the average pay for most other unskilled workers in this metropolis as that is 3 times what most people earn despite the OM saying different it means he is earning £22-50 ph on a 40 hour week and if he is driving for longer than that in a week is he safe to travel with? Is there a limit to how long you can drive in taxis like coaches have. I would take his Taxi licence away if he caused a delay deliberately on a public road as he earns this massive amount by charging people too much in the first place The sooner the taxi and private hire businesses are deregulated and allowed a level playing field the better. [/quote] Clearly you didn't read what was said in the first place, all of the £900 is not the cab drivers, it'd be everything else that I'd mentioned before hand. After everything is paid out at the end of the month you'd be lucky to actually earn £400. Which is worse than unskilled workers on mimimun wage!! You have no idea do you, ever thought of thinking before speaking? Oxford is full of idiots like you. Carry on and make your city proud of you.
con man cam wrote:
A man earning £900 per week or £45000 PA is calling out \"I cannot afford to work\" good job he is not earning the average pay for most other unskilled workers in this metropolis as that is 3 times what most people earn despite the OM saying different it means he is earning £22-50 ph on a 40 hour week and if he is driving for longer than that in a week is he safe to travel with? Is there a limit to how long you can drive in taxis like coaches have. I would take his Taxi licence away if he caused a delay deliberately on a public road as he earns this massive amount by charging people too much in the first place The sooner the taxi and private hire businesses are deregulated and allowed a level playing field the better.
Clearly you didn't read what was said in the first place, all of the £900 is not the cab drivers, it'd be everything else that I'd mentioned before hand. After everything is paid out at the end of the month you'd be lucky to actually earn £400. Which is worse than unskilled workers on mimimun wage!! You have no idea do you, ever thought of thinking before speaking? Oxford is full of idiots like you. Carry on and make your city proud of you.
Posted by: Tom, Oxford on 6:30pm Mon 14 Jul 08
[quote][bold]CABBOY[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]con man cam[/bold] wrote:
A man earning £900 per week or £45000 PA is calling out \"I cannot afford to work\" good job he is not earning the average pay for most other unskilled workers in this metropolis as that is 3 times what most people earn despite the OM saying different it means he is earning £22-50 ph on a 40 hour week and if he is driving for longer than that in a week is he safe to travel with? Is there a limit to how long you can drive in taxis like coaches have. I would take his Taxi licence away if he caused a delay deliberately on a public road as he earns this massive amount by charging people too much in the first place The sooner the taxi and private hire businesses are deregulated and allowed a level playing field the better. [/quote] Clearly you didn't read what was said in the first place, all of the £900 is not the cab drivers, it'd be everything else that I'd mentioned before hand. After everything is paid out at the end of the month you'd be lucky to actually earn £400. Which is worse than unskilled workers on mimimun wage!! You have no idea do you, ever thought of thinking before speaking? Oxford is full of idiots like you. Carry on and make your city proud of you.[/quote] i agree. so many people who comment on this site are ignorant and full of hate. looking to pick holes. not bothering to read the stories. lazy and spiteful. these forums have such potential, but they are hijacked by frustrated egos.
CABBOY wrote:
con man cam wrote:
A man earning £900 per week or £45000 PA is calling out \"I cannot afford to work\" good job he is not earning the average pay for most other unskilled workers in this metropolis as that is 3 times what most people earn despite the OM saying different it means he is earning £22-50 ph on a 40 hour week and if he is driving for longer than that in a week is he safe to travel with? Is there a limit to how long you can drive in taxis like coaches have. I would take his Taxi licence away if he caused a delay deliberately on a public road as he earns this massive amount by charging people too much in the first place The sooner the taxi and private hire businesses are deregulated and allowed a level playing field the better.
Clearly you didn't read what was said in the first place, all of the £900 is not the cab drivers, it'd be everything else that I'd mentioned before hand. After everything is paid out at the end of the month you'd be lucky to actually earn £400. Which is worse than unskilled workers on mimimun wage!! You have no idea do you, ever thought of thinking before speaking? Oxford is full of idiots like you. Carry on and make your city proud of you.
i agree. so many people who comment on this site are ignorant and full of hate. looking to pick holes. not bothering to read the stories. lazy and spiteful. these forums have such potential, but they are hijacked by frustrated egos.
Posted by: White Van Man, M40 on 7:48pm Mon 14 Jul 08
GOOD ON YOU LADS!!
Posted by: homer simpson, springfield on 7:42am Tue 15 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Amazed[/bold] wrote:
An Oxford cabbie was taking £1500 a week six months ago is quoted.Don't know why hes worried about the increase in fuel prices![/quote] i wonder how much of that he actually declared to the tax man!!!!??? a lot of people earn less than that in a month. if the figures are right, then that equates out to over £70000 per year. for a taxi driver!!!!!!!!!! what a rip off taxi's are. they nearly all have newish cabs too.
Amazed wrote:
An Oxford cabbie was taking £1500 a week six months ago is quoted.Don't know why hes worried about the increase in fuel prices!
i wonder how much of that he actually declared to the tax man!!!!??? a lot of people earn less than that in a month. if the figures are right, then that equates out to over £70000 per year. for a taxi driver!!!!!!!!!! what a rip off taxi's are. they nearly all have newish cabs too.
Posted by: Gordon Brown, Number 10 on 10:39am Tue 15 Jul 08
Gordon Brown and the rest of the politicians don't give a monkeys about us!!
Fathers For Justice have been campaigning for a few years with direct action, they have got the right idea", whether you like or not!
It's not for me to say what you do, but over the last few weeks, there have been many go slow protests,"HAS ANYONE IN GOVERMENT TAKEN NOTICE" doesn't appear to done anything."
POLITICIANS don't give a monkeys, they are having a laugh at our expense, they have huge increases in their pay, plus a second house, we are the people that vote these people into power.
The country is in a big mess, and GORDON BROWN is making things worse" by ignoring our problems, he is happy to give our money away to help other countries, but i'm sorry charity starts at home!!!
Gordon Brown and the rest of the politicians don't give a monkeys about us!!
Fathers For Justice have been campaigning for a few years with direct action, they have got the right idea", whether you like or not!
It's not for me to say what you do, but over the last few weeks, there have been many go slow protests,"HAS ANYONE IN GOVERMENT TAKEN NOTICE" doesn't appear to done anything."
POLITICIANS don't give a monkeys, they are having a laugh at our expense, they have huge increases in their pay, plus a second house, we are the people that vote these people into power.
The country is in a big mess, and GORDON BROWN is making things worse" by ignoring our problems, he is happy to give our money away to help other countries, but i'm sorry charity starts at home!!!
Posted by: flanders, springfield on 11:37am Tue 15 Jul 08
[quote][bold]homer simpson[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Amazed[/bold] wrote: An Oxford cabbie was taking £1500 a week six months ago is quoted.Don't know why hes worried about the increase in fuel prices![/quote] i wonder how much of that he actually declared to the tax man!!!!??? a lot of people earn less than that in a month. if the figures are right, then that equates out to over £70000 per year. for a taxi driver!!!!!!!!!! what a rip off taxi's are. they nearly all have newish cabs too.[/quote] oh my god
homer simpson wrote:
Amazed wrote: An Oxford cabbie was taking £1500 a week six months ago is quoted.Don't know why hes worried about the increase in fuel prices!
i wonder how much of that he actually declared to the tax man!!!!??? a lot of people earn less than that in a month. if the figures are right, then that equates out to over £70000 per year. for a taxi driver!!!!!!!!!! what a rip off taxi's are. they nearly all have newish cabs too.
oh my god
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