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Election: Full picture in Oxford
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Labour has taken control of Oxford City Council after a hugely successful election night.
Although the party suffered losses at town halls up and down the country, there was no sign of a bloody nose in Oxford where the party strengthened its position, gaining four seats.
Oxford is still effectively in limbo, with no one group in overall control, but Labour - by virtue of the fact the group has the largest number of councillors - will form a minority administration, taking control for the first time since 2006.
It was an agonising one seat short of a majority.
For the Liberal Democrats, the night marked a miserable end to a controversial two-year stint in charge of the authority, during which four councillors defected from their ranks and dissent grew over their handling of waste collection rounds.
The evening was no better for the Tories, who started with two councillors but finished with none.
Conservative group leader Paul Sargent he lost his Carfax seat to Lib Dem newcomer Stephen Brown, while his colleague Tia MacGregor lost her Quarry and Risinghurst seat to Labour's Laurence Baxter.
The Tories have now failed to return a single city councillor since Barbara Burgess was elected in Marston in 2000.
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In a bombshell result, Independent Working Class Association councillor Lee Cole lost his Blackbird Leys seat to Labour's Val Smith - the wife of Oxford East MP Andrew Smith - by a massive 230 votes.
Fellow IWCA councillor Claire Kent was booted out of her Churchill seat by Labour's Mark Lygo.
IWCA leader Stuart Craft won his Northfield Brook seat - but refused to shake Labour rival Richard Stevens' hand after the result was declared.
Lib Dem Caroline van Zyl lost to Labour's Beverley Hazzell in Marston, but the group did have something to shout about in Holywell, where Nathan Pyle took the seat from the Greens.
Defeat in Cowley Marsh was particularly bitter for the Lib Dems.
Saj Malik, who quit the group to join Labour, defeated Tony Brett in his own back yard - and then held up a placard proclaiming "Fib Dems - Losing Here".
Turnout was 32.6 per cent across the city.
Before last night's elections the city council was made up of 19 Labour councillors; 15 Liberal Democrats; eight Greens; four Independent Working Class Association and two Conservative.
But after all votes were counted and verified at the Town Hall in the small hours, the new council looked like this:
* Labour - 23
* Liberal Democrats - 16
* Greens - 7
* Independent Working Class Association - 2
* Conservatives - 0
Labour leader Bob Price said: "We are going to be the administration.
"We are delighted with the results - it shows the two years the Lib Dems have run the city have been a disaster and we really need to build back the city and make it a good place to live.
"We will be putting more money into recycling, play areas and leisure centres.
"It is interesting to know the Tories are still without a seat in the city."
2:27am Friday 2nd May 2008
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CommentPosted by: sl, cowley on 2:53am Fri 2 May 08
So does this mean a return to weekly rubbish collections?
So does this mean a return to weekly rubbish collections?
Posted by: Machlieod-O'hOg'ai
n, abingdon on 4:17am Fri 2 May 08
Did labour really want control of the poisoned chalice that is Oxford?
Did labour really want control of the poisoned chalice that is Oxford?
Posted by: concerned resident of woodfarm, woodfarm on 6:49am Fri 2 May 08
woodfarm is f****d without claire kent....shes the only councillor that bothered with their ward..
woodfarm is f****d without claire kent....shes the only councillor that bothered with their ward..
Posted by: bob, Oxford on 7:30am Fri 2 May 08
[quote][bold]concerned resident of woodfarm[/bold] wrote:
woodfarm is f****d without claire kent....shes the only councillor that bothered with their ward..[/quote] Evidently not according to the electorates opinion...
concerned resident of woodfarm wrote:
woodfarm is f****d without claire kent....shes the only councillor that bothered with their ward..
Evidently not according to the electorates opinion...
Posted by: Jon Rees, Donnington, Oxford on 7:52am Fri 2 May 08
I do hope keen cyclist Bob Price's Labour City Council will show its support for increased Cycling provision in Oxford, and work sensibly with the Greens, Cyclox and the grassroots "20mph's Plenty" campaign to make the city more sustainable, using their excellent knowledge base and advisory capability on all things environmental. The city centre developments must support cycle parking in a very big way - not as a peripheral after-thought...
I do hope keen cyclist Bob Price's Labour City Council will show its support for increased Cycling provision in Oxford, and work sensibly with the Greens, Cyclox and the grassroots "20mph's Plenty" campaign to make the city more sustainable, using their excellent knowledge base and advisory capability on all things environmental. The city centre developments must support cycle parking in a very big way - not as a peripheral after-thought...
Posted by: Andrew, Oxford on 8:04am Fri 2 May 08
When do the weekly refuse collections start?
They didn't bother collecting from one of my recycle boxes this week - I had to burn the contents last night in order that I've got somewhere to put the rubbish for the next fortnight.
When do the weekly refuse collections start?
They didn't bother collecting from one of my recycle boxes this week - I had to burn the contents last night in order that I've got somewhere to put the rubbish for the next fortnight.
Posted by: Worried on 8:19am Fri 2 May 08
Well done, Nathan on finally getting there.
It's a shame that voters failed to see the Labour have ruined Oxford and the LibDems have been unable to change much because of Labours fiscal mismanagement.
On a wider basis, Labour have been putting in place policies aimed at making low paid workers lives more difficult.
This election has been a great case of turkeys voting for Christmas.
My own hard working councillor has been replaced by an inexperienced Labour member and this is depressing as it will take time for the new councillor to get up to speed, and Labour are renowned for rubber stamping all developers plans, even those which do not serve the publics interests.
I can't wait to see how much more I'm going to have to pay under Labour.
Prozac anyone?
Well done, Nathan on finally getting there.
It's a shame that voters failed to see the Labour have ruined Oxford and the LibDems have been unable to change much because of Labours fiscal mismanagement.
On a wider basis, Labour have been putting in place policies aimed at making low paid workers lives more difficult.
This election has been a great case of turkeys voting for Christmas.
My own hard working councillor has been replaced by an inexperienced Labour member and this is depressing as it will take time for the new councillor to get up to speed, and Labour are renowned for rubber stamping all developers plans, even those which do not serve the publics interests.
I can't wait to see how much more I'm going to have to pay under Labour.
Prozac anyone?
Posted by: Smithy, Woodfarm on 8:19am Fri 2 May 08
Good riddance Claire Kent, she's all image & broken promises, can't see Lygo doing a better job myself, but ANYONE is better than she. Funny, the "concerned resident of woodfarm" comments were written at 6:49am, is that you Claire? Haha!!
Good riddance Claire Kent, she's all image & broken promises, can't see Lygo doing a better job myself, but ANYONE is better than she. Funny, the "concerned resident of woodfarm" comments were written at 6:49am, is that you Claire? Haha!!
Posted by: Jongo, Oxon on 8:20am Fri 2 May 08
[bold]I do hope keen cyclist Bob Price's Labour City Council will show its support for increased Cycling provision in Oxford, and work sensibly with the Greens, Cyclox and the grassroots "20mph's Plenty" campaign to make the city more sustainable, using their excellent knowledge base and advisory capability on all things environmental. The city centre developments must support cycle parking in a very big way - not as a peripheral after-thought...[/bold]
I doubt it!
I do hope keen cyclist Bob Price's Labour City Council will show its support for increased Cycling provision in Oxford, and work sensibly with the Greens, Cyclox and the grassroots "20mph's Plenty" campaign to make the city more sustainable, using their excellent knowledge base and advisory capability on all things environmental. The city centre developments must support cycle parking in a very big way - not as a peripheral after-thought...
I doubt it!
Posted by: worried on 8:26am Fri 2 May 08
[quote][bold]Andrew[/bold] wrote:
When do the weekly refuse collections start? They didn't bother collecting from one of my recycle boxes this week - I had to burn the contents last night in order that I've got somewhere to put the rubbish for the next fortnight.[/quote] They're not.
Are people really that stupid? The 2 weekly collections were a Labour Policy that the LibDems inherited!!!
Get a grip.
Andrew wrote:
When do the weekly refuse collections start? They didn't bother collecting from one of my recycle boxes this week - I had to burn the contents last night in order that I've got somewhere to put the rubbish for the next fortnight.
They're not.
Are people really that stupid? The 2 weekly collections were a Labour Policy that the LibDems inherited!!!
Get a grip.
Posted by: Phil Gale, Oxford on 8:43am Fri 2 May 08
Oxford bucks the national trend, and increases support for Labour.
How very depressing.
Oxford bucks the national trend, and increases support for Labour.
How very depressing.
Posted by: Sherlock, Oxford on 9:00am Fri 2 May 08
Judging by the writing style and what is being said, I deduce that "Worried" posting above is none other than the normally very active and very vocal Tony Brett. (If not, where are you Tony, we need your opinions)
Judging by the writing style and what is being said, I deduce that "Worried" posting above is none other than the normally very active and very vocal Tony Brett. (If not, where are you Tony, we need your opinions)
Posted by: Worried on 9:13am Fri 2 May 08
Nice try, Sherlock, however in this case its alimentary, if you catch my drift?
Tony is probably keeping a low profile right now.
Nice try, Sherlock, however in this case its alimentary, if you catch my drift?
Tony is probably keeping a low profile right now.
Posted by: Worried on 9:13am Fri 2 May 08
Nice try, Sherlock, however in this case its alimentary, if you catch my drift?
Tony is probably keeping a low profile right now.
Nice try, Sherlock, however in this case its alimentary, if you catch my drift?
Tony is probably keeping a low profile right now.
Posted by: Ed, Oxford on 9:15am Fri 2 May 08
Shame Labour got in but with any luck these aren't the tax-hiking-service-c
utting types we see in Westminster.
Let's hope they use their power wisely and to the benefit of Oxford, not their bank balances.
You are being watched.
Was Jean Fooks up for election? If so, please tell me she was defeated?
Shame Labour got in but with any luck these aren't the tax-hiking-service-c
utting types we see in Westminster.
Let's hope they use their power wisely and to the benefit of Oxford, not their bank balances.
You are being watched.
Was Jean Fooks up for election? If so, please tell me she was defeated?
Posted by: Worried on 9:15am Fri 2 May 08
Alimentary my dear boy, if you catch my drift.
Tony is keeping a low profile today it would seem.
Alimentary my dear boy, if you catch my drift.
Tony is keeping a low profile today it would seem.
Posted by: DanOxford on 9:39am Fri 2 May 08
[quote][bold]Jon Rees[/bold] wrote:
I do hope keen cyclist Bob Price's Labour City Council will show its support for increased Cycling provision in Oxford, and work sensibly with the Greens, Cyclox and the grassroots "20mph's Plenty" campaign to make the city more sustainable, using their excellent knowledge base and advisory capability on all things environmental. The city centre developments must support cycle parking in a very big way - not as a peripheral after-thought...[/quote] Oh I'm sure the combined Lefties/ Greens will combine to set the UK back 200 years to a pre- industrial era- and tax us for the priviledge.
Great news for single, childless, locally (or not at all) employed East Oxford residents, bad news for the disabled, people with children, anyone who lives outside the ring road and anyone whose idea of fun isn't sitting around in candlelight telling stories to their children about the annual pilgrimage to the market to trade chickens for basic hand tools.
Jon Rees wrote:
I do hope keen cyclist Bob Price's Labour City Council will show its support for increased Cycling provision in Oxford, and work sensibly with the Greens, Cyclox and the grassroots "20mph's Plenty" campaign to make the city more sustainable, using their excellent knowledge base and advisory capability on all things environmental. The city centre developments must support cycle parking in a very big way - not as a peripheral after-thought...
Oh I'm sure the combined Lefties/ Greens will combine to set the UK back 200 years to a pre- industrial era- and tax us for the priviledge.
Great news for single, childless, locally (or not at all) employed East Oxford residents, bad news for the disabled, people with children, anyone who lives outside the ring road and anyone whose idea of fun isn't sitting around in candlelight telling stories to their children about the annual pilgrimage to the market to trade chickens for basic hand tools.
Posted by: Rob, Cowley on 9:45am Fri 2 May 08
We may well need a return to weekly rubbish collections to take away all the leaflets I received from 'recycling champion' Tony Brett. Don't worry Tony, all went straight in the box, including the two I received from you yesterday; the first early in the morning, the second at 9.30 last night telling me it was still not too late to vote. Unfortunately, it was too late, because I'd voted hours before.
We may well need a return to weekly rubbish collections to take away all the leaflets I received from 'recycling champion' Tony Brett. Don't worry Tony, all went straight in the box, including the two I received from you yesterday; the first early in the morning, the second at 9.30 last night telling me it was still not too late to vote. Unfortunately, it was too late, because I'd voted hours before.
Posted by: alan page on 10:14am Fri 2 May 08
[quote][bold]DanOxford[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Jon Rees[/bold] wrote: I do hope keen cyclist Bob Price's Labour City Council will show its support for increased Cycling provision in Oxford, and work sensibly with the Greens, Cyclox and the grassroots "20mph's Plenty" campaign to make the city more sustainable, using their excellent knowledge base and advisory capability on all things environmental. The city centre developments must support cycle parking in a very big way - not as a peripheral after-thought...[/quote] Oh I'm sure the combined Lefties/ Greens will combine to set the UK back 200 years to a pre- industrial era- and tax us for the priviledge. Great news for single, childless, locally (or not at all) employed East Oxford residents, bad news for the disabled, people with children, anyone who lives outside the ring road and anyone whose idea of fun isn't sitting around in candlelight telling stories to their children about the annual pilgrimage to the market to trade chickens for basic hand tools.[/quote] Oh and not forgetting a legal drugs market.
It is hilarious that points based on historical research and evidence are seized upon by the historical perpetrators and turned round.
Please elaborate and cite specific cases, I'mre we will be most interested.
DanOxford wrote:
Jon Rees wrote: I do hope keen cyclist Bob Price's Labour City Council will show its support for increased Cycling provision in Oxford, and work sensibly with the Greens, Cyclox and the grassroots "20mph's Plenty" campaign to make the city more sustainable, using their excellent knowledge base and advisory capability on all things environmental. The city centre developments must support cycle parking in a very big way - not as a peripheral after-thought...
Oh I'm sure the combined Lefties/ Greens will combine to set the UK back 200 years to a pre- industrial era- and tax us for the priviledge. Great news for single, childless, locally (or not at all) employed East Oxford residents, bad news for the disabled, people with children, anyone who lives outside the ring road and anyone whose idea of fun isn't sitting around in candlelight telling stories to their children about the annual pilgrimage to the market to trade chickens for basic hand tools.
Oh and not forgetting a legal drugs market.
It is hilarious that points based on historical research and evidence are seized upon by the historical perpetrators and turned round.
Please elaborate and cite specific cases, I'mre we will be most interested.
Posted by: Concerned Cabby, Cowley on 10:15am Fri 2 May 08
I have noticed ex Lib Dem councilors who are connected with the taxi trade in Oxford have recently switched sides to Labour --- could this be their way of trying to influence the councils decision on about de-restricting taxi numbers in Oxford?
I have noticed ex Lib Dem councilors who are connected with the taxi trade in Oxford have recently switched sides to Labour --- could this be their way of trying to influence the councils decision on about de-restricting taxi numbers in Oxford?
Posted by: Concerned Cabby, Cowley on 10:17am Fri 2 May 08
I have noticed ex Lib Dem councilors who are connected with the taxi trade in Oxford have recently switched sides to Labour --- could this be their way of trying to influence the councils decision on about de-restricting taxi numbers in Oxford?
I have noticed ex Lib Dem councilors who are connected with the taxi trade in Oxford have recently switched sides to Labour --- could this be their way of trying to influence the councils decision on about de-restricting taxi numbers in Oxford?
Posted by: Concerned Cabby, Cowley on 10:19am Fri 2 May 08
I have noticed ex Lib Dem councilors who are connected with the taxi trade in Oxford have recently switched sides to Labour --- could this be their way of trying to influence the councils decision on about de-restricting taxi numbers in Oxford?
I have noticed ex Lib Dem councilors who are connected with the taxi trade in Oxford have recently switched sides to Labour --- could this be their way of trying to influence the councils decision on about de-restricting taxi numbers in Oxford?
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 10:45am Fri 2 May 08
I pity you.
Posted by: Davd Hearn, Oxford on 10:50am Fri 2 May 08
[quote][bold]Smithy[/bold] wrote:
Good riddance Claire Kent, she's all image & broken promises, can't see Lygo doing a better job myself, but ANYONE is better than she. Funny, the "concerned resident of woodfarm" comments were written at 6:49am, is that you Claire? Haha!![/quote] [bold]Having gone to many public sessions & watched councillors as a resident and tenant, I'd assure Wood Farmers that in CK they could hardly have won a more committed and active representative. NuLab will just continue to "go lie", as it has nationally. I hope Claire will stand again, and wish her & the IWCA their deserved success.[/bold]
Smithy wrote:
Good riddance Claire Kent, she's all image & broken promises, can't see Lygo doing a better job myself, but ANYONE is better than she. Funny, the "concerned resident of woodfarm" comments were written at 6:49am, is that you Claire? Haha!!
Having gone to many public sessions & watched councillors as a resident and tenant, I'd assure Wood Farmers that in CK they could hardly have won a more committed and active representative. NuLab will just continue to "go lie", as it has nationally. I hope Claire will stand again, and wish her & the IWCA their deserved success. Posted by: Andrew, Oxford on 11:08am Fri 2 May 08
[quote][bold]Ed[/bold] wrote:
Shame Labour got in but with any luck these aren't the tax-hiking-service-c utting types we see in Westminster. Let's hope they use their power wisely and to the benefit of Oxford, not their bank balances. You are being watched. Was Jean Fooks up for election? If so, please tell me she was defeated?[/quote]
Jean "Filthy" Fooks isn't back up for election until 2010...
She can accept personal responsibility for the disgusting state of Oxford streets and the loss of lib-dem seats in Ox.
Ed wrote:
Shame Labour got in but with any luck these aren't the tax-hiking-service-c utting types we see in Westminster. Let's hope they use their power wisely and to the benefit of Oxford, not their bank balances. You are being watched. Was Jean Fooks up for election? If so, please tell me she was defeated?
Jean "Filthy" Fooks isn't back up for election until 2010...
She can accept personal responsibility for the disgusting state of Oxford streets and the loss of lib-dem seats in Ox.
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 11:25am Fri 2 May 08
With the drug importers and card cloners representatives still on the scene it cannot really improve.
Any arrests for box stuffing?
With the drug importers and card cloners representatives still on the scene it cannot really improve.
Any arrests for box stuffing?
Posted by: Brenda Jarvis on 12:04pm Fri 2 May 08
Clearly Oxfam's Antonia Bance and Oxford Labour Councillor is doing her spin with the election results. She tells us on her Blog: "Labour are four up on where we were before - winning Marston, Blackbird Leys, Churchill (Wood Farm) and Quarry and Risinghurst. We were four (four!) votes short in Barton..I’m off to bed. Analysis in the morning, but I’m elated." But it's Labour's worst performance in 40 years. Is Oxfam's UK Poverty Programme of which Antonia Bance is its deputy director, equally elated I wonder?
Clearly Oxfam's Antonia Bance and Oxford Labour Councillor is doing her spin with the election results. She tells us on her Blog: "Labour are four up on where we were before - winning Marston, Blackbird Leys, Churchill (Wood Farm) and Quarry and Risinghurst. We were four (four!) votes short in Barton..I’m off to bed. Analysis in the morning, but I’m elated." But it's Labour's worst performance in 40 years. Is Oxfam's UK Poverty Programme of which Antonia Bance is its deputy director, equally elated I wonder?
Posted by: Peter Lawrence, Oxford on 12:57pm Fri 2 May 08
As Bance is an Oxford councillor, it's hardly "spin" to celebrate a good performance by Labour in Oxford, however badly they did nationally.
I think you might have your own axe to grind, Brenda. And no, I didn't vote Labour...
As Bance is an Oxford councillor, it's hardly "spin" to celebrate a good performance by Labour in Oxford, however badly they did nationally.
I think you might have your own axe to grind, Brenda. And no, I didn't vote Labour...
Posted by: Tony Brett, Oxford on 3:13pm Fri 2 May 08
Hello all - not keeping a low profile, just have a rest. Interesting bunch of comments so far.
I definitely will not be giving up on my community though, even though I did not win the council seat. The election was not about me, it was about wanting to serve my own community. If it would prefer someone else on the council then so be it. That's what democracy is about.
Just one correction: Stephen Brown who won Carfax back for the LibDems is not a newcomer. He represented North Ward on the City Council for quite a few years earlier this decade.
Hello all - not keeping a low profile, just have a rest. Interesting bunch of comments so far.
I definitely will not be giving up on my community though, even though I did not win the council seat. The election was not about me, it was about wanting to serve my own community. If it would prefer someone else on the council then so be it. That's what democracy is about.
Just one correction: Stephen Brown who won Carfax back for the LibDems is not a newcomer. He represented North Ward on the City Council for quite a few years earlier this decade.
Posted by: pussycat, woodfarm on 3:18pm Fri 2 May 08
claire kent did nothing for the residents in long close.only once 2 weeks ago did she call hoping we would vote for her. its taken her 3 years to find us.
claire kent did nothing for the residents in long close.only once 2 weeks ago did she call hoping we would vote for her. its taken her 3 years to find us.
Posted by: Neil, Oxford on 3:43pm Fri 2 May 08
Ed & Andrew,
The result in Jean Fooks' ward was the best Lib Dem result of the night.
As for taking responsibility for the lib Dem losses - well they lost one seat but gained two others so are one up overall.
Ed & Andrew,
The result in Jean Fooks' ward was the best Lib Dem result of the night.
As for taking responsibility for the lib Dem losses - well they lost one seat but gained two others so are one up overall.
Posted by: OX Man,, oxford on 3:59pm Fri 2 May 08
Labour will not bring weekly Rubbish collections and it was just political way to blame Lib Dem infact all partys doesn't bring in weekly collections,
People of Oxford should not listen to these tricks of election wining,
Labour will not bring weekly Rubbish collections and it was just political way to blame Lib Dem infact all partys doesn't bring in weekly collections,
People of Oxford should not listen to these tricks of election wining,
Posted by: Patrick D, Wood Farm on 4:20pm Fri 2 May 08
[quote][bold]concerned resident of woodfarm[/bold] wrote:
woodfarm is f****d without claire kent....shes the only councillor that bothered with their ward..[/quote] The only time she seemed to do anything in the last 2 years was to come round with a load of her cronies a few weeks before the election who came from god knows where
concerned resident of woodfarm wrote:
woodfarm is f****d without claire kent....shes the only councillor that bothered with their ward..
The only time she seemed to do anything in the last 2 years was to come round with a load of her cronies a few weeks before the election who came from god knows where
Posted by: Tony Brett, Oxford on 4:54pm Fri 2 May 08
[quote][bold]Sherlock[/bold] wrote:
Judging by the writing style and what is being said, I deduce that "Worried" posting above is none other than the normally very active and very vocal Tony Brett. (If not, where are you Tony, we need your opinions)[/quote] I'm flattered Sherlock, I think, but I NEVER post here as anyone except myself.
Sherlock wrote:
Judging by the writing style and what is being said, I deduce that "Worried" posting above is none other than the normally very active and very vocal Tony Brett. (If not, where are you Tony, we need your opinions)
I'm flattered Sherlock, I think, but I NEVER post here as anyone except myself.
Posted by: Ed, Oxford on 5:52pm Fri 2 May 08
Neil: If that is the best the LibDems can do in Oxford when Labour is at such a low rating they may as well pack up now.
Ox Man: It was the sheer arrogance of the LibDem councillors whilst dealing with complaints about fortnightly collections that stopped people voting LibDem.
Neil: If that is the best the LibDems can do in Oxford when Labour is at such a low rating they may as well pack up now.
Ox Man: It was the sheer arrogance of the LibDem councillors whilst dealing with complaints about fortnightly collections that stopped people voting LibDem.
Posted by: Happy cabbie, oxford on 6:07pm Fri 2 May 08
[quote][bold]Concerned Cabby[/bold] wrote:
I have noticed ex Lib Dem councilors who are connected with the taxi trade in Oxford have recently switched sides to Labour --- could this be their way of trying to influence the councils decision on about de-restricting taxi numbers in Oxford? [/quote] yes, but hah ha, they wont de-restrict now will they. Majority now?
Concerned Cabby wrote:
I have noticed ex Lib Dem councilors who are connected with the taxi trade in Oxford have recently switched sides to Labour --- could this be their way of trying to influence the councils decision on about de-restricting taxi numbers in Oxford?
yes, but hah ha, they wont de-restrict now will they. Majority now?
Posted by: David Hearn., Oxford on 6:24pm Fri 2 May 08
[italic]Local elections are really less about party line, IMHO, and more about the vim and vigour of individuals who are standing, especially where they've done a good job representing and getting jobs done by the council for the voters.
Any sane person now loathes NuLab as much as most of us still hate Thatcherism, which is perversely NuLab's philosophical parent.
If your local councillor is sound, yet has not yet quit the NuLab sinking ship, that's their choice or mistake. This applies in my ward.
We need'nt be surprised that Oxford bucks a national trend. It is, after all, famous as the HOME of lost causes. New Labour is just another.[/italic]
Local elections are really less about party line, IMHO, and more about the vim and vigour of individuals who are standing, especially where they've done a good job representing and getting jobs done by the council for the voters.
Any sane person now loathes NuLab as much as most of us still hate Thatcherism, which is perversely NuLab's philosophical parent.
If your local councillor is sound, yet has not yet quit the NuLab sinking ship, that's their choice or mistake. This applies in my ward.
We need'nt be surprised that Oxford bucks a national trend. It is, after all, famous as the HOME of lost causes. New Labour is just another. Posted by: j adams on 6:50pm Fri 2 May 08
who got in for st clements
who got in for st clements
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 7:47pm Fri 2 May 08
The English won Oxford,the British usurpers seized the chattels.
The English won Oxford,the British usurpers seized the chattels.
Posted by: Roger, East Oxford on 11:58pm Fri 2 May 08
[quote][bold]Neil[/bold] wrote:
Ed & Andrew,
The result in Jean Fooks' ward was the best Lib Dem result of the night.
As for taking responsibility for the lib Dem losses - well they lost one seat but gained two others so are one up overall.[/quote] Perfectly true. It's strange how the cookie has crumbled, but it has crumbled. I can't wait to find out who the new Jean Fooks will be. That is a poisoned chalice !
Neil wrote:
Ed & Andrew,
The result in Jean Fooks' ward was the best Lib Dem result of the night.
As for taking responsibility for the lib Dem losses - well they lost one seat but gained two others so are one up overall.
Perfectly true. It's strange how the cookie has crumbled, but it has crumbled. I can't wait to find out who the new Jean Fooks will be. That is a poisoned chalice !
Posted by: Worried on 5:29am Sat 3 May 08
[quote][bold]David Hearn.[/bold] wrote:
[italic]Local elections are really less about party line, IMHO, and more about the vim and vigour of individuals who are standing, especially where they\'ve done a good job representing and getting jobs done by the council for the voters. Any sane person now loathes NuLab as much as most of us still hate Thatcherism, which is perversely NuLab\'s philosophical parent. If your local councillor is sound, yet has not yet quit the NuLab sinking ship, that\'s their choice or mistake. This applies in my ward. We need\'nt be surprised that Oxford bucks a national trend. It is, after all, famous as the HOME of lost causes. New Labour is just another.[/italic] [/quote] It'd be nice to imagine that is true, but one of the busiest councillors working hard for residents in Oxford lost the seat to a newbie.
Labour fought the election by avoiding drawing attention to the fact they are part of a party pressuring the working classes into increasing levels of poverty. Only Oxford seems to have entirely missed the point.
David Hearn. wrote:
Local elections are really less about party line, IMHO, and more about the vim and vigour of individuals who are standing, especially where they\'ve done a good job representing and getting jobs done by the council for the voters. Any sane person now loathes NuLab as much as most of us still hate Thatcherism, which is perversely NuLab\'s philosophical parent. If your local councillor is sound, yet has not yet quit the NuLab sinking ship, that\'s their choice or mistake. This applies in my ward. We need\'nt be surprised that Oxford bucks a national trend. It is, after all, famous as the HOME of lost causes. New Labour is just another.
It'd be nice to imagine that is true, but one of the busiest councillors working hard for residents in Oxford lost the seat to a newbie.
Labour fought the election by avoiding drawing attention to the fact they are part of a party pressuring the working classes into increasing levels of poverty. Only Oxford seems to have entirely missed the point.
Posted by: Arfan Ahmed on 12:21pm Sat 3 May 08
Some one just pointed out to me the X Lib Dem Saj Malik is an Asylum seeker !!!!
Can he really stand for Elections, or even cast a vote?
Any Answers any one
Some one just pointed out to me the X Lib Dem Saj Malik is an Asylum seeker !!!!
Can he really stand for Elections, or even cast a vote?
Any Answers any one
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 8:27pm Sat 3 May 08
New Labour around here fight to keep illegal immigrants from deporation.
They beak the law to appeal to immigrants,i can only imagine the Muslim vote comes from a genocidal faction of that err,religion.
We really have no use for asylum seekers seizing the means of taxation or the means of spending it.
When was the last time you saw an Englishman as local or national politician in the immigrant nations?
New Labour around here fight to keep illegal immigrants from deporation.
They beak the law to appeal to immigrants,i can only imagine the Muslim vote comes from a genocidal faction of that err,religion.
We really have no use for asylum seekers seizing the means of taxation or the means of spending it.
When was the last time you saw an Englishman as local or national politician in the immigrant nations?
Posted by: Ahmed, cowley on 1:49pm Sun 4 May 08
Yes, He was Asylum seeker,who was deported and then came back, now he can be new Labour politician, and using the Muslim voters in east Oxford Getto........ but the fact is that there were lot of proxy and postal votes even one person voted six time, which gave s m huge majority.
Yes, He was Asylum seeker,who was deported and then came back, now he can be new Labour politician, and using the Muslim voters in east Oxford Getto........ but the fact is that there were lot of proxy and postal votes even one person voted six time, which gave s m huge majority.
Posted by: Arfan Ahmed, oxford on 2:17pm Sun 4 May 08
...... so why doesn't any one look into it?
...... so why doesn't any one look into it?
Posted by: Neil, Oxford on 4:55pm Sun 4 May 08
Ed,
The Lib Dems won 8 seats to Labour's 12 and 25% of the vote to Labour's 34% across the City.
Not a bad result overall and certainly not a Labour landslide.
Ed,
The Lib Dems won 8 seats to Labour's 12 and 25% of the vote to Labour's 34% across the City.
Not a bad result overall and certainly not a Labour landslide.
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 8:18pm Sun 4 May 08
Hmmm yes,postal voting is the diebold of new labour.
Will they be cuffed and stuffed or will they promise not to do it next time,like last time and the time before.
Beheading is a viable and culturally fiting solution to the problem they pose.
Hmmm yes,postal voting is the diebold of new labour.
Will they be cuffed and stuffed or will they promise not to do it next time,like last time and the time before.
Beheading is a viable and culturally fiting solution to the problem they pose.
Posted by: Ahmed, cowley on 1:01pm Mon 5 May 08
It important to see the proxy and postal voting special in cowley marsh where huge number of vote were used by Asain people, but the problem is that no one is going to come forward and say, they all will cover each other, I hope that there should full investigasion and this fraud should be stopped.
It important to see the proxy and postal voting special in cowley marsh where huge number of vote were used by Asain people, but the problem is that no one is going to come forward and say, they all will cover each other, I hope that there should full investigasion and this fraud should be stopped.
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