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Bagpiper refuses to go quietly
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| HITTING BACK: Bagpiper Heath Richardson is pictured with his petition in Cornmarket Street |
Controversial bagpiper Heath Richardson is fighting back against traders who want to ban him from Oxford's main shopping street.
For 14 years, Mr Richardson, 32, has entertained shoppers in Cornmarket Street with popular tunes including Scotland the Brave and Highland Cathedral.
But some traders say the music is drowning out their conversations and have launched a petition calling for Mr Richardson to be banned.
Mr Richardson, from Chipping Norton, who trained at the Glasgow School of Piping, has launched a counter-petition urging councillors to let him stay. He has collected almost 500 signatures, compared to 400 gathered by businesses.
Click hear to listen to a podcast of Heath Richardson playing the bagpipes
Mr Richardson said: "People are queuing up to sign my petition and it is not just tourists - a lot of local people are signing it as well. By the end of the week I should have 1,000.
"Some bands come into Cornmarket and use loads of amplifiers and break all the council's busking guidelines but I stick to them and I think I should be allowed to stay."
Businessmen in Cornmarket Street, including medical publisher Dr William Waggott, have called for tighter controls on buskers, citing Mr Richardson as a particular problem. Students using Jesus College accommodation have also complained.
| 'Some bands come into Cornmarket and use loads of amplifiers and break all the council's busking guidelines but I stick to them and I think I should be allowed to stay' | | Heath Richardson |
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Jean Fooks, executive member for a cleaner city, said she visited Mr Richardson yesterday and added: "He is sticking to the council's voluntary code, which means he can certainly stay for the time being. We need to consider whether the code should be revised and I expect the central, south and west area committee will look at the issue in January, taking into account both petitions."
Oxford Brookes University student Tom Hobbs, 19, signed Mr Richardson's petition. He said: "The bagpipes create a festive atmosphere for shoppers. The guy should be allowed to stay - he isn't doing any harm."
Fellow Brookes student Charlotte Day, 19, said: "I think he is brilliant - he's a bit different from your average busker and he puts a smile on people's faces."
But one businesswoman working above the Clarendon Centre, said: "The quality of the music is frantic and repetitive and most people would not like to do their job with that in their ears."
Dr Waggott added: "I am pleased the council is looking at the issue because the busking code should be better enforced."
6:00am Wednesday 19th December 2007
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CommentPosted by: William, Oxford on 5:42pm Tue 18 Dec 07
I say best of luck to him,
Shame on the snotty retards who complain about him.
Maybe they can do better?
Or then again maybe not.......
I say best of luck to him,
Shame on the snotty retards who complain about him.
Maybe they can do better?
Or then again maybe not.......
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 5:45pm Tue 18 Dec 07
They have no balls either,they dont like that arse Browns business tax so they pick on a piper.
They have no balls either,they dont like that arse Browns business tax so they pick on a piper.
Posted by: mickey, oxford on 7:17am Wed 19 Dec 07
The guy is a pain in the backside - he constantly plays his horrible bagpipes that don't need amplification because they are noisy enough as it is.
I hope he is banned from playing - how would you like to have to put up with his racket outside your place of work? It's a horrible noise and blights a trip into the town centre.
The guy is a pain in the backside - he constantly plays his horrible bagpipes that don't need amplification because they are noisy enough as it is.
I hope he is banned from playing - how would you like to have to put up with his racket outside your place of work? It's a horrible noise and blights a trip into the town centre.
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 8:10am Wed 19 Dec 07
But can he play Dixie?
Posted by: M, Oxford on 9:07am Wed 19 Dec 07
I signed his petition, I really hope the snobs of Oxford lose this one. You can also join the facebook group to support him. In the interests of fairness there's also an anti-piper facebook site.
Go the piper! Play it loud, and merry christmas by the way.
I signed his petition, I really hope the snobs of Oxford lose this one. You can also join the facebook group to support him. In the interests of fairness there's also an anti-piper facebook site.
Go the piper! Play it loud, and merry christmas by the way.
Posted by: George, Oxford on 9:27am Wed 19 Dec 07
As a piper, of the traditional type, I have aways taken great exception to Mr Richardson's repertoire, musicianship (largely jigs played at express speed) dress, appearance and deportment (the ridiculous foot-stamping).
As a piper, of the traditional type, I have aways taken great exception to Mr Richardson's repertoire, musicianship (largely jigs played at express speed) dress, appearance and deportment (the ridiculous foot-stamping).
Posted by: M, Oxford on 9:39am Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]George[/bold] wrote:
As a piper, of the traditional type, I have aways taken great exception to Mr Richardson's repertoire, musicianship (largely jigs played at express speed) dress, appearance and deportment (the ridiculous foot-stamping). [/quote] See? A snob.
Come on the piper.
George wrote:
As a piper, of the traditional type, I have aways taken great exception to Mr Richardson's repertoire, musicianship (largely jigs played at express speed) dress, appearance and deportment (the ridiculous foot-stamping).
See? A snob.
Come on the piper.
Posted by: Oxfordman, Oxford on 9:52am Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]mickey[/bold] wrote:
The guy is a pain in the backside - he constantly plays his horrible bagpipes that don't need amplification because they are noisy enough as it is. I hope he is banned from playing - how would you like to have to put up with his racket outside your place of work? It's a horrible noise and blights a trip into the town centre. [/quote] Get over it!
Everyone has to "Put up" with noises out side their place of work. This is just a more tuneful one. When were you meant enjoy going to work? You say it blights a trip to the Town Centre? Not heard any complaints from the members of public... What blights a trip to the Town Centre is the fact you're going to work...
Keep going Heath!
mickey wrote:
The guy is a pain in the backside - he constantly plays his horrible bagpipes that don't need amplification because they are noisy enough as it is. I hope he is banned from playing - how would you like to have to put up with his racket outside your place of work? It's a horrible noise and blights a trip into the town centre.
Get over it!
Everyone has to "Put up" with noises out side their place of work. This is just a more tuneful one. When were you meant enjoy going to work? You say it blights a trip to the Town Centre? Not heard any complaints from the members of public... What blights a trip to the Town Centre is the fact you're going to work...
Keep going Heath!
Posted by: Mark L, Oxford on 10:04am Wed 19 Dec 07
Thank god he is going, i walk/ed past him every day coming home from work, what a row! not music!
Thank god he is going, i walk/ed past him every day coming home from work, what a row! not music!
Posted by: nick on 10:34am Wed 19 Dec 07
Best of luck to the guy.
Posted by: Billy McArdle, Rose Hill on 10:41am Wed 19 Dec 07
The guy plays the bagpipes terribly I just wish he would stop or visit Scotland and stay there.
The guy plays the bagpipes terribly I just wish he would stop or visit Scotland and stay there.
Posted by: alan page on 10:46am Wed 19 Dec 07
Bagpipers of Oxford unite!!
Form a group and play in Cornmarket Street!!
Give the Bourgeois something to moan about!!
Bagpipers of Oxford unite!!
Form a group and play in Cornmarket Street!!
Give the Bourgeois something to moan about!!
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 10:54am Wed 19 Dec 07
Maybe a jig from Poland would rally the troopers.
Maybe a jig from Poland would rally the troopers.
Posted by: Tony C, Oxford on 11:15am Wed 19 Dec 07
In the article a Brookes student said: "...and he puts a smile on people's faces." Well I think that Mr. Richardson should put a smile on his own face for a change.
I'm sick to death of that miserable git stamping his feet aggressively and being miserable to everyone. Give me your bloody money and p**s off is his attitude. Have you ruined any more children's choirs lately? Or shouted abuse at people using their mobile phones just in case they are taking your picture without paying?
Maybe you wouldn't be coming under so much attack if you weren't such an ignorant, miserable and inconsiderate pratt!
In the article a Brookes student said: "...and he puts a smile on people's faces." Well I think that Mr. Richardson should put a smile on his own face for a change.
I'm sick to death of that miserable git stamping his feet aggressively and being miserable to everyone. Give me your bloody money and p**s off is his attitude. Have you ruined any more children's choirs lately? Or shouted abuse at people using their mobile phones just in case they are taking your picture without paying?
Maybe you wouldn't be coming under so much attack if you weren't such an ignorant, miserable and inconsiderate pratt!
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 11:21am Wed 19 Dec 07
There is something of the puritanical about Oxford's professional whiners.
There is something of the puritanical about Oxford's professional whiners.
Posted by: Geraldine, North Oxford on 11:28am Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]William[/bold] wrote:
I say best of luck to him, Shame on the snotty retards who complain about him. Maybe they can do better? Or then again maybe not.......[/quote] If this is the quality of Mr. Richardson's 'support' then they should all be ashamed of themselves.
Consideration and good manners cost nothing, therefore you do not have to be 'Bourgeois' or well off to excercise them.
William wrote:
I say best of luck to him, Shame on the snotty retards who complain about him. Maybe they can do better? Or then again maybe not.......
If this is the quality of Mr. Richardson's 'support' then they should all be ashamed of themselves.
Consideration and good manners cost nothing, therefore you do not have to be 'Bourgeois' or well off to excercise them.
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 11:35am Wed 19 Dec 07
You do know you are not obliged to give money?
You do know you are not obliged to give money?
Posted by: Richard, Oxford on 11:36am Wed 19 Dec 07
Love it or hate it (which is nearly always going to be the case with any busker), he's got a permit and is sticking to the rules laid down by the council
[quote]He is sticking to the council's voluntary code, which means he can certainly stay for the time being.[/quote]
It sounds as if the rules on buskers either need to be revised (with input from all parties I would hope) or he be left to carry on doing his thing.
What I am curious about is why the sudden fuss if he's been there for 14 years?
Love it or hate it (which is nearly always going to be the case with any busker), he's got a permit and is sticking to the rules laid down by the council
He is sticking to the council's voluntary code, which means he can certainly stay for the time being.
It sounds as if the rules on buskers either need to be revised (with input from all parties I would hope) or he be left to carry on doing his thing.
What I am curious about is why the sudden fuss if he's been there for 14 years?
Posted by: alan page on 11:53am Wed 19 Dec 07
Desperation for real news.
The Ox mail has decided to give the office bound penpushers a voice again.
Can't you just smell the Starbucks Latte?
I say get the Highlanders out in force and make them choke on their couscous.
Desperation for real news.
The Ox mail has decided to give the office bound penpushers a voice again.
Can't you just smell the Starbucks Latte?
I say get the Highlanders out in force and make them choke on their couscous.
Posted by: W. Forbes, Oxford on 11:59am Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]Mr Ison[/bold] wrote:
There is something of the puritanical about Oxford\'s professional whiners.[/quote] Not puritanical, Mr. Ison.
I believe tolerant would be a better word, as Mr. Richardson's behaviour has been severe enough on several occasions that the the 'professional whiners' you speak of could easily have had an injunction out against Mr. Richardson or possibly even have had him ASBO'd.
They only want to be able to study and work in a tollerable environment.
Mr Ison wrote:
There is something of the puritanical about Oxford\'s professional whiners.
Not puritanical, Mr. Ison.
I believe tolerant would be a better word, as Mr. Richardson's behaviour has been severe enough on several occasions that the the 'professional whiners' you speak of could easily have had an injunction out against Mr. Richardson or possibly even have had him ASBO'd.
They only want to be able to study and work in a tollerable environment.
Posted by: alan page on 12:09pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Yes, Yes as tolerant as of those who lit up in pubs, for example?
Nah, as Macaulay put it, it's the middle classes in one of their periodic fits of moral outrage.
Are we really expected to believe all these students are actually heads down and working?
If that was the case they would not be coming out as thick as pig excrement would they?
Cue death threats from the student union!!
Yes, Yes as tolerant as of those who lit up in pubs, for example?
Nah, as Macaulay put it, it's the middle classes in one of their periodic fits of moral outrage.
Are we really expected to believe all these students are actually heads down and working?
If that was the case they would not be coming out as thick as pig excrement would they?
Cue death threats from the student union!!
Posted by: Arfur Jock, Oxford on 12:19pm Wed 19 Dec 07
I have heard a lot of bad pipers in my time and, in my opinion, this guy is very good. He understand the technicalities and has the ability to add his own style.
If only he could be a bit politer it might help his cause.
And to all those complaining about the noise of buskers as they work in Cornmarket Street - ever thought you are in the wrong job? It's a busy city centre people. Work in a monastry if you want peace.
I have heard a lot of bad pipers in my time and, in my opinion, this guy is very good. He understand the technicalities and has the ability to add his own style.
If only he could be a bit politer it might help his cause.
And to all those complaining about the noise of buskers as they work in Cornmarket Street - ever thought you are in the wrong job? It's a busy city centre people. Work in a monastry if you want peace.
Posted by: Nick, Oxford on 12:29pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Maybe the long haired twit should get a proper job or go back to Scotland !!!
Maybe the long haired twit should get a proper job or go back to Scotland !!!
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 12:31pm Wed 19 Dec 07
City Folk...
Posted by: AG on 12:31pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]alan page[/bold] wrote:
Desperation for real news.
The Ox mail has decided to give the office bound penpushers a voice again.
Can't you just smell the Starbucks Latte?
I say get the Highlanders out in force and make them choke on their couscous.[/quote] My girlfriend and her mother are both Highlanders, and both musicians. The thing they are most likely to choke with anything is Heath's pipes - they think he's terrible.
alan page wrote:
Desperation for real news.
The Ox mail has decided to give the office bound penpushers a voice again.
Can't you just smell the Starbucks Latte?
I say get the Highlanders out in force and make them choke on their couscous.
My girlfriend and her mother are both Highlanders, and both musicians. The thing they are most likely to choke with anything is Heath's pipes - they think he's terrible.
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 12:34pm Wed 19 Dec 07
They say that to shut you up no doubt.
They say that to shut you up no doubt.
Posted by: joe, oxford on 12:40pm Wed 19 Dec 07
I think the bag pipes make the most unpleasant noise in the world and though I’d love nothing more than to never have to hear the soul ripping sound again we can’t just ban one street performer based on personal taste, if he goes then it sets a precedent that we can remove any street performer if they are not to some people taste.
I think the bag pipes make the most unpleasant noise in the world and though I’d love nothing more than to never have to hear the soul ripping sound again we can’t just ban one street performer based on personal taste, if he goes then it sets a precedent that we can remove any street performer if they are not to some people taste.
Posted by: conkertoes, deadcat on 12:41pm Wed 19 Dec 07
take no notice piper there all baw bags
take no notice piper there all baw bags
Posted by: Banging Drums, oxon on 1:00pm Wed 19 Dec 07
The Cornmarket petition is NOT to remove the piper. It's only the Oxford Mail that said it's about removing him. The petition is about fair regulation of busking so that the students studying, people worshiping in the church and office workers are protected from the really loud buskers. It's not rocket science to realize that!! Not many people can afford to lose 3-4 hours of a working day because a loud busker has just pitched up outside. It's sad to see that most people posting comments for the piper here and on the Saturday's piece seems to be insulting us with abusive terms. Why? What have we done to you?
The Cornmarket petition is NOT to remove the piper. It's only the Oxford Mail that said it's about removing him. The petition is about fair regulation of busking so that the students studying, people worshiping in the church and office workers are protected from the really loud buskers. It's not rocket science to realize that!! Not many people can afford to lose 3-4 hours of a working day because a loud busker has just pitched up outside. It's sad to see that most people posting comments for the piper here and on the Saturday's piece seems to be insulting us with abusive terms. Why? What have we done to you?
Posted by: Piob Mhor, Wood Farm on 1:05pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Having listened to the podcast I am confirmed in my view that Mr. Richardson is an excellent piper with a rare ability to convey the subtleties of pipe music.
This music is not in the western tradition and its roots are in the eastern origins of the Celts.
I suspect that may of those who don't appreciate it also don't "hear" what's going on the jazz played by the likes of Charlie Parker and Ornette Coleman.
Having listened to the podcast I am confirmed in my view that Mr. Richardson is an excellent piper with a rare ability to convey the subtleties of pipe music.
This music is not in the western tradition and its roots are in the eastern origins of the Celts.
I suspect that may of those who don't appreciate it also don't "hear" what's going on the jazz played by the likes of Charlie Parker and Ornette Coleman.
Posted by: jon on 1:06pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]AG[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]alan page[/bold] wrote: Desperation for real news. The Ox mail has decided to give the office bound penpushers a voice again. Can\'t you just smell the Starbucks Latte? I say get the Highlanders out in force and make them choke on their couscous.[/quote] My girlfriend and her mother are both Highlanders, and both musicians. The thing they are most likely to choke with anything is Heath\'s pipes - they think he\'s terrible.[/quote] "my girlfriend and her mother" ha ive never laughed so load, i nearly paid the rent, Ohhh get you, more snobs, think they are better than others.
AG wrote:
alan page wrote: Desperation for real news. The Ox mail has decided to give the office bound penpushers a voice again. Can\'t you just smell the Starbucks Latte? I say get the Highlanders out in force and make them choke on their couscous.
My girlfriend and her mother are both Highlanders, and both musicians. The thing they are most likely to choke with anything is Heath\'s pipes - they think he\'s terrible.
"my girlfriend and her mother" ha ive never laughed so load, i nearly paid the rent, Ohhh get you, more snobs, think they are better than others.
Posted by: alan page on 1:59pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]Piob Mhor[/bold] wrote:
Having listened to the podcast I am confirmed in my view that Mr. Richardson is an excellent piper with a rare ability to convey the subtleties of pipe music. This music is not in the western tradition and its roots are in the eastern origins of the Celts. I suspect that may of those who don't appreciate it also don't "hear" what's going on the jazz played by the likes of Charlie Parker and Ornette Coleman. [/quote] I understand he hails from Australia, don't know what the piping tradition is there but a lot of Australian folk music is derived from Irish roots, perhaps its that you can hear?
Piob Mhor wrote:
Having listened to the podcast I am confirmed in my view that Mr. Richardson is an excellent piper with a rare ability to convey the subtleties of pipe music. This music is not in the western tradition and its roots are in the eastern origins of the Celts. I suspect that may of those who don't appreciate it also don't "hear" what's going on the jazz played by the likes of Charlie Parker and Ornette Coleman.
I understand he hails from Australia, don't know what the piping tradition is there but a lot of Australian folk music is derived from Irish roots, perhaps its that you can hear?
Posted by: Mr. Sanchez, Oxford on 2:06pm Wed 19 Dec 07
I understand this man can earn up to 25 pounds an hour,so is he paying tax on it and if not why not?
I understand this man can earn up to 25 pounds an hour,so is he paying tax on it and if not why not?
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 2:08pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Maybe an Oxford tradition is in the making,the Yuletide chasing of the Piper through the town.
Needs a royal charter methinks.
Maybe an Oxford tradition is in the making,the Yuletide chasing of the Piper through the town.
Needs a royal charter methinks.
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 2:44pm Wed 19 Dec 07
It reminds me.
"They came in a blizzard, we offered them heat
A roof for their heads, dry shoes for their feet
We wined them and dined them, they ate of our meat
And they slept in the house of MacDonald."
It reminds me.
"They came in a blizzard, we offered them heat
A roof for their heads, dry shoes for their feet
We wined them and dined them, they ate of our meat
And they slept in the house of MacDonald."
Posted by: Dick Tugwell, Oxford on 2:44pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Why does he have to play in Oxford city centre if he likes it so much why doesn't he play in his own bedroom or in his garden or outside his own house?
Why does he have to play in Oxford city centre if he likes it so much why doesn't he play in his own bedroom or in his garden or outside his own house?
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 2:57pm Wed 19 Dec 07
"O, cruel was the snow that sweeps Glencoe
And covers the grave o' Donald
O, cruel was the foe that raped Glencoe
And murdered the house of MacDonald."
"O, cruel was the snow that sweeps Glencoe
And covers the grave o' Donald
O, cruel was the foe that raped Glencoe
And murdered the house of MacDonald."
Posted by: Dan, Oxford on 3:30pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]alan page[/bold] wrote:
Bagpipers of Oxford unite!! Form a group and play in Cornmarket Street!! Give the Bourgeois something to moan about!![/quote] BINGO! Can I claim the Alan Page 'Bourgeoise Bingo' spotting prize please?
alan page wrote:
Bagpipers of Oxford unite!! Form a group and play in Cornmarket Street!! Give the Bourgeois something to moan about!!
BINGO! Can I claim the Alan Page 'Bourgeoise Bingo' spotting prize please?
Posted by: Lucy, Oxford city centre on 3:33pm Wed 19 Dec 07
I'm someone who works in Clarendon centre and I find the noise more than I can cope with. I can't concentrate and it upsets me. Why am I being called a snob, small minded, an office bound pen pusher etc etc. I like music, I give menoey to buskers and enjoy them - I even like pipers, just not so loud it's down my ear down my ear, over and over again as I try to do my job
I'm someone who works in Clarendon centre and I find the noise more than I can cope with. I can't concentrate and it upsets me. Why am I being called a snob, small minded, an office bound pen pusher etc etc. I like music, I give menoey to buskers and enjoy them - I even like pipers, just not so loud it's down my ear down my ear, over and over again as I try to do my job
Posted by: Dan, Oxford on 3:37pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]alan page[/bold] wrote:
Desperation for real news. The Ox mail has decided to give the office bound penpushers a voice again. Can't you just smell the Starbucks Latte? I say get the Highlanders out in force and make them choke on their couscous.[/quote] That's because they're all the filthy bourgeoise Alan! Rest assured they will be swept aside to the gulag when you assume your rightful place as Chairman Page when shoe-growing Communism overthrows these bloated capitalist enemies of the people! (not 'capitalist pigs'- don't want to offend any Muslims mind) Can I personally ask that you feature this brave comrade piper of the revolution when your Socialist News For The People replaces the Oxford Mail?
alan page wrote:
Desperation for real news. The Ox mail has decided to give the office bound penpushers a voice again. Can't you just smell the Starbucks Latte? I say get the Highlanders out in force and make them choke on their couscous.
That's because they're all the filthy bourgeoise Alan! Rest assured they will be swept aside to the gulag when you assume your rightful place as Chairman Page when shoe-growing Communism overthrows these bloated capitalist enemies of the people! (not 'capitalist pigs'- don't want to offend any Muslims mind) Can I personally ask that you feature this brave comrade piper of the revolution when your Socialist News For The People replaces the Oxford Mail?
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 3:39pm Wed 19 Dec 07
And now it's time for the hammer to fall.
And now it's time for the hammer to fall.
Posted by: Lynn, Oxford City Centre on 3:58pm Wed 19 Dec 07
The noise from one bagpipe player is on average 108 decibels. The sound of a jet taking off is 120! It may not be too bad for the public and general shoppers who walk past this racket and have the luxury of the din fading away as they dissappear into Next, but for everyone who's trapped in an office and can't escape, it's really, really annoying.
Given the option, I'd think I'd choose to listen to a jet taking off than that strangled cat racket any day!
The noise from one bagpipe player is on average 108 decibels. The sound of a jet taking off is 120! It may not be too bad for the public and general shoppers who walk past this racket and have the luxury of the din fading away as they dissappear into Next, but for everyone who's trapped in an office and can't escape, it's really, really annoying.
Given the option, I'd think I'd choose to listen to a jet taking off than that strangled cat racket any day!
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 4:03pm Wed 19 Dec 07
How did you weight your spl readings?
How did you weight your spl readings?
Posted by: dampener, Oxford on 4:06pm Wed 19 Dec 07
I think a noise-level restriction in the new rules would be reasonable. Can a sound dampener be attached to bagpipes? like the ones that can be used on trumpets so they don't sound too loud.
I think a noise-level restriction in the new rules would be reasonable. Can a sound dampener be attached to bagpipes? like the ones that can be used on trumpets so they don't sound too loud.
Posted by: KLJ, Oxford on 4:10pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]William[/bold] wrote:
I say best of luck to him, Shame on the snotty retards who complain about him. Maybe they can do better? Or then again maybe not.......[/quote] What! Snotty retards! This is [bold]not[/bold] about banning him, it's about getting stricter regulations so the distruption doesn't last so long! It doesn't need to go as far as banning him but after hours of the same tunes over and over, it gets annoying. Especially when you're tryin to work. I'm sure even all you bitchy people would find it hard to cope with if you had to work with it. Us pen pushing office workers have nothing in particular against the piper, just that it's loud and repetitive and he is sometimes rude (not 'brave'!) When one of the music stores decided to pump thier music out all day, that was frustrating too. This has all been twisted to make it sound like we're at war with the guy! We just want him to be more considerate, or made to be more so!
William wrote:
I say best of luck to him, Shame on the snotty retards who complain about him. Maybe they can do better? Or then again maybe not.......
What! Snotty retards! This is
not about banning him, it's about getting stricter regulations so the distruption doesn't last so long! It doesn't need to go as far as banning him but after hours of the same tunes over and over, it gets annoying. Especially when you're tryin to work. I'm sure even all you bitchy people would find it hard to cope with if you had to work with it. Us pen pushing office workers have nothing in particular against the piper, just that it's loud and repetitive and he is sometimes rude (not 'brave'!) When one of the music stores decided to pump thier music out all day, that was frustrating too. This has all been twisted to make it sound like we're at war with the guy! We just want him to be more considerate, or made to be more so!
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 4:13pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Too low and you risk criminalising flights over Oxford and civilian alarms.
Dont forget to remove the ambient noise from your test results.
Ambient noise such as town cryer,motorists,nasa
l americans and the like.
Too low and you risk criminalising flights over Oxford and civilian alarms.
Dont forget to remove the ambient noise from your test results.
Ambient noise such as town cryer,motorists,nasa
l americans and the like.
Posted by: Arfur Jock, Oxford on 4:15pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote]The noise from one bagpipe player is on average 108 decibels. The sound of a jet taking off is 120![/quote]
Can anyone smell bulldoodoo? I can, and I think that although I smelt it, Lynn most definitely dealt it.
Unless it was a joke. Was it a joke? A bit like Eric Morecombe when he told Andre Preview that was playing the all the right notes but not necessarily in the right order?
Bagpipes and jet engines are of a similar volume if you a: stuff a set of bagpipes in your ear and b: stand half a mile from a (small) jet engine.
The noise from one bagpipe player is on average 108 decibels. The sound of a jet taking off is 120!
Can anyone smell bulldoodoo? I can, and I think that although I smelt it, Lynn most definitely dealt it.
Unless it was a joke. Was it a joke? A bit like Eric Morecombe when he told Andre Preview that was playing the all the right notes but not necessarily in the right order?
Bagpipes and jet engines are of a similar volume if you a: stuff a set of bagpipes in your ear and b: stand half a mile from a (small) jet engine.
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 4:16pm Wed 19 Dec 07
As far as i can tell imposing new laws for the benefit of a minorty would seem to be undemocratic and in contempt.
The plaintif brought their case,400 votes,the jury found the defendant innocent with 500 votes.
Investigation into corrupt councillors is waitng for the green light.
As far as i can tell imposing new laws for the benefit of a minorty would seem to be undemocratic and in contempt.
The plaintif brought their case,400 votes,the jury found the defendant innocent with 500 votes.
Investigation into corrupt councillors is waitng for the green light.
Posted by: tarquin, oxford on 4:21pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Will someone please puncture Heath's bag as I am annoyed with his appalling racket.
And then can you do something about his pipes.
Will someone please puncture Heath's bag as I am annoyed with his appalling racket.
And then can you do something about his pipes.
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 4:25pm Wed 19 Dec 07
You are free to join the noise abatement society.
http://www.noiseabat
ementsociety.com
And become a member of another one of those pressure groups.
You are free to join the noise abatement society.
http://www.noiseabat
ementsociety.com
And become a member of another one of those pressure groups.
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 4:35pm Wed 19 Dec 07
I presume you do have bellringers?
I presume you do have bellringers?
Posted by: MusicMan, Oxford on 4:43pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Actually, other people are asking bagpipers to pipe down, e.g.
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/scotland/edin
burgh_and_east/52099
60.stm
"Army musicians told to pipe down
Bagpipes have played a major role in Scottish regiments
Army bagpipers have been ordered to limit playing indoors to 15 minutes a day under new health and safety rules set out by the Ministry of Defence.
Soldiers at Edinburgh's Army Piping School also face a 24 minute restriction when playing outdoors.
The advice, aimed at preventing hearing problems, was issued after a study by the Army Medical Directorate.
Tests showed that outside the sound of bagpipes could reach 111 decibels - about as loud as a pneumatic drill.
Indoors it could reach 116 decibels, or as loud as a chainsaw.
Soldiers have been told they must wear earplugs if they practise for longer periods.
A spokesman for the Army said: "We have a duty of care to protect the hearing of all our soldiers.
"We are carrying out that duty of care in implementing this recommendation."
Bagpipes have played a major role in Scottish regiments, with members being piped into battle by kilted soldiers.
About 100 soldiers are based at the piping school. They are currently training for the Edinburgh Military Tattoo, which will be held in August."
Actually, other people are asking bagpipers to pipe down, e.g.
http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/scotland/edin
burgh_and_east/52099
60.stm
"Army musicians told to pipe down
Bagpipes have played a major role in Scottish regiments
Army bagpipers have been ordered to limit playing indoors to 15 minutes a day under new health and safety rules set out by the Ministry of Defence.
Soldiers at Edinburgh's Army Piping School also face a 24 minute restriction when playing outdoors.
The advice, aimed at preventing hearing problems, was issued after a study by the Army Medical Directorate.
Tests showed that outside the sound of bagpipes could reach 111 decibels - about as loud as a pneumatic drill.
Indoors it could reach 116 decibels, or as loud as a chainsaw.
Soldiers have been told they must wear earplugs if they practise for longer periods.
A spokesman for the Army said: "We have a duty of care to protect the hearing of all our soldiers.
"We are carrying out that duty of care in implementing this recommendation."
Bagpipes have played a major role in Scottish regiments, with members being piped into battle by kilted soldiers.
About 100 soldiers are based at the piping school. They are currently training for the Edinburgh Military Tattoo, which will be held in August."
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 4:50pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Ah the BBC,long have they denigrated the British people with their claptrap,and their tithe.
The Military is paid for by taxation,as such they can have little input into our affairs.
After all it's agreed civilians dont invade other countries and murder the inhabitants,if they were to do so they would meet with very little sympathy at the hands of the military.
Ah the BBC,long have they denigrated the British people with their claptrap,and their tithe.
The Military is paid for by taxation,as such they can have little input into our affairs.
After all it's agreed civilians dont invade other countries and murder the inhabitants,if they were to do so they would meet with very little sympathy at the hands of the military.
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 5:02pm Wed 19 Dec 07
And since the propaganda is really starting to emerge over busking i suggest reading a little of what turns up when searching for propagada techniques.
See how many you can spot!
And since the propaganda is really starting to emerge over busking i suggest reading a little of what turns up when searching for propagada techniques.
See how many you can spot!
Posted by: suspicious, oxford on 5:03pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Mr Ison, are you actually Alan Page using a pseudonym?
Mr Ison, are you actually Alan Page using a pseudonym?
Posted by: AB, Oxford on 5:11pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Keep up the good work Heath! Your playing is Ace!!!
Keep up the good work Heath! Your playing is Ace!!!
Posted by: 188-950, Oxford on 5:21pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]Dick Tugwell[/bold] wrote:
Why does he have to play in Oxford city centre if he likes it so much why doesn't he play in his own bedroom or in his garden or outside his own house?[/quote] Erm.. because he'd make no money, you dimboid.
Dick Tugwell wrote:
Why does he have to play in Oxford city centre if he likes it so much why doesn't he play in his own bedroom or in his garden or outside his own house?
Erm.. because he'd make no money, you dimboid.
Posted by: Dan, Oxford on 5:29pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]suspicious[/bold] wrote:
Mr Ison, are you actually Alan Page using a pseudonym?[/quote] He can't be- Alan would be quite unable to post any comment without the word 'bourgeoise' in, no matter how hard he tried.
suspicious wrote:
Mr Ison, are you actually Alan Page using a pseudonym?
He can't be- Alan would be quite unable to post any comment without the word 'bourgeoise' in, no matter how hard he tried.
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 5:43pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Pravda ran a Propaganda piece a few years back detailing a man who felt taking a bath or somesuch trifle smacked of the bourgeoise.
Pravda ran a Propaganda piece a few years back detailing a man who felt taking a bath or somesuch trifle smacked of the bourgeoise.
Posted by: Geraldine, Noth Oxford on 8:55pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]Mr Ison[/bold] wrote:
And since the propaganda is really starting to emerge over busking i suggest reading a little of what turns up when searching for propagada techniques. See how many you can spot![/quote] Well Mr. Ison, we do not have to look very far. No further than this newspaper article in fact.
After appearing scruffy looking, miserable and hostile for so long, stamping his feet and harassing passers by for money he suddenly appears in this article totally transformed. Out is the gruff, threatening thug and in is the incredibly dashing, sweet smiling, angel in the picture. It looks like he's even taken a bath and washed his hair - for the first time in years I have no doubt. The smile must also be the result of plastic surgery.
No, well done Andrew French and Heath Richardson, and Pravda eat your heart out!
Mr Ison wrote:
And since the propaganda is really starting to emerge over busking i suggest reading a little of what turns up when searching for propagada techniques. See how many you can spot!
Well Mr. Ison, we do not have to look very far. No further than this newspaper article in fact.
After appearing scruffy looking, miserable and hostile for so long, stamping his feet and harassing passers by for money he suddenly appears in this article totally transformed. Out is the gruff, threatening thug and in is the incredibly dashing, sweet smiling, angel in the picture. It looks like he's even taken a bath and washed his hair - for the first time in years I have no doubt. The smile must also be the result of plastic surgery.
No, well done Andrew French and Heath Richardson, and Pravda eat your heart out!
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 9:08pm Wed 19 Dec 07
Ah,the joys of ones first metronome.
Ah,the joys of ones first metronome.
Posted by: Geraldine, North Oxford on 9:16pm Wed 19 Dec 07
[quote][bold]Mr Ison[/bold] wrote:
Ah,the joys of ones first metronome.[/quote] Yes, far more tuneful and less repetitive than much of what passes for busking on Cornmarket street these days.
Goodnight.
Mr Ison wrote:
Ah,the joys of ones first metronome.
Yes, far more tuneful and less repetitive than much of what passes for busking on Cornmarket street these days.
Goodnight.
Posted by: alan page on 12:28am Thu 20 Dec 07
[quote][bold]suspicious[/bold] wrote:
Mr Ison, are you actually Alan Page using a pseudonym?[/quote] No, he believes Hitler was a great man and I don't.
He opposes cruelty to animals wheras I prefer stringing badgers up by the bo---x, especially in Spring.
So,no, we are not the same person. I don't know who would be the most relieved.
suspicious wrote:
Mr Ison, are you actually Alan Page using a pseudonym?
No, he believes Hitler was a great man and I don't.
He opposes cruelty to animals wheras I prefer stringing badgers up by the bo---x, especially in Spring.
So,no, we are not the same person. I don't know who would be the most relieved.
Posted by: alan page on 12:30am Thu 20 Dec 07
[quote][bold]Dan[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]suspicious[/bold] wrote: Mr Ison, are you actually Alan Page using a pseudonym?[/quote] He can't be- Alan would be quite unable to post any comment without the word 'bourgeoise' in, no matter how hard he tried.[/quote] Proved you wrong there didn't I?
"Oh Danny Boy,
The Pipes, the pipes are calling etc etc"
Dan wrote:
suspicious wrote: Mr Ison, are you actually Alan Page using a pseudonym?
He can't be- Alan would be quite unable to post any comment without the word 'bourgeoise' in, no matter how hard he tried.
Proved you wrong there didn't I?
"Oh Danny Boy,
The Pipes, the pipes are calling etc etc"
Posted by: Cat, Oxford on 1:10am Thu 20 Dec 07
[quote][bold]Dan[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]alan page[/bold] wrote: Bagpipers of Oxford unite!! Form a group and play in Cornmarket Street!! Give the Bourgeois something to moan about!![/quote] BINGO! Can I claim the Alan Page 'Bourgeoise Bingo' spotting prize please? [/quote] Dan,
Loving your work I'm playing 'Bourgeoise Bingo' too!!
Mr Page, you are oh so boring and clearly not taking your medication your posts have helped me learn to sleep with my eyes open!
Dan,
1-0 to you on the 'Bourgeoise Bingo' but you now have a fellow contestant!
Dan wrote:
alan page wrote: Bagpipers of Oxford unite!! Form a group and play in Cornmarket Street!! Give the Bourgeois something to moan about!!
BINGO! Can I claim the Alan Page 'Bourgeoise Bingo' spotting prize please?
Dan,
Loving your work I'm playing 'Bourgeoise Bingo' too!!
Mr Page, you are oh so boring and clearly not taking your medication your posts have helped me learn to sleep with my eyes open!
Dan,
1-0 to you on the 'Bourgeoise Bingo' but you now have a fellow contestant!
Posted by: Cat, Oxford on 1:23am Thu 20 Dec 07
[quote][bold]Mr Ison[/bold] wrote:
Pravda ran a Propaganda piece a few years back detailing a man who felt taking a bath or somesuch trifle smacked of the bourgeoise.[/quote] Mr Ison is clearly Mr Page's split persona.
So Dan I believe 'Bourgeoise Bingo' is now 1-1!
Mr Ison wrote:
Pravda ran a Propaganda piece a few years back detailing a man who felt taking a bath or somesuch trifle smacked of the bourgeoise.
Mr Ison is clearly Mr Page's split persona.
So Dan I believe 'Bourgeoise Bingo' is now 1-1!
Posted by: Broken Drums, Oxon on 2:11am Thu 20 Dec 07
On 27th August, a childrens’ choir from Bonn was performing a school choir at St. Michael at the North Gate church at lunchtime. As verger of the church I approached the bagpiper and requested that he take a break or relocate during the performance. The bagpiper told me to [bold]f**k off[/bold] , that his busking was paying his [bold]f***ing[/bold] bills and that it was his job. I left, not wanting to be involved in an argument, and hoped that his conscience would get the better of him and that he would move on. On the contrary, the piper continued to play throughout the childrens’ performance and could be heard while the children were singing. Poor parents and tourists with camcorders probably had a third rate busker on tape to take home instead of what would have been enjoyable memories for them and the children. Incident reported by Jo Reid, verger of St. Michael at the North Gate Anglican church, Cornmarket Street. Nice way to treat a lady from church. Clearly a legendary individual. Hear he is being being given the key to Oxford --------- [bold]not[/bold] .
On 27th August, a childrens’ choir from Bonn was performing a school choir at St. Michael at the North Gate church at lunchtime. As verger of the church I approached the bagpiper and requested that he take a break or relocate during the performance. The bagpiper told me to
f**k off , that his busking was paying his
f***ing bills and that it was his job. I left, not wanting to be involved in an argument, and hoped that his conscience would get the better of him and that he would move on. On the contrary, the piper continued to play throughout the childrens’ performance and could be heard while the children were singing. Poor parents and tourists with camcorders probably had a third rate busker on tape to take home instead of what would have been enjoyable memories for them and the children. Incident reported by Jo Reid, verger of St. Michael at the North Gate Anglican church, Cornmarket Street. Nice way to treat a lady from church. Clearly a legendary individual. Hear he is being being given the key to Oxford ---------
not .
Posted by: alan page on 2:47am Thu 20 Dec 07
[quote][bold]Cat[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]alan page[/bold] wrote: Bagpipers of Oxford unite!! Form a group and play in Cornmarket Street!! Give the Bourgeois something to moan about!![/quote] BINGO! Can I claim the Alan Page 'Bourgeoise Bingo' spotting prize please? [/quote] Dan, Loving your work I'm playing 'Bourgeoise Bingo' too!! Mr Page, you are oh so boring and clearly not taking your medication your posts have helped me learn to sleep with my eyes open! Dan, 1-0 to you on the 'Bourgeoise Bingo' but you now have a fellow contestant![/quote] Being considered boring by some twin set and pearls, green wellied harridan is as good as it gets!!
Keep it coming, I am loving every minute of it.
Cat wrote:
Dan wrote: alan page wrote: Bagpipers of Oxford unite!! Form a group and play in Cornmarket Street!! Give the Bourgeois something to moan about!!
BINGO! Can I claim the Alan Page 'Bourgeoise Bingo' spotting prize please?
Dan, Loving your work I'm playing 'Bourgeoise Bingo' too!! Mr Page, you are oh so boring and clearly not taking your medication your posts have helped me learn to sleep with my eyes open! Dan, 1-0 to you on the 'Bourgeoise Bingo' but you now have a fellow contestant!
Being considered boring by some twin set and pearls, green wellied harridan is as good as it gets!!
Keep it coming, I am loving every minute of it.
Posted by: Cat, Oxford on 3:12am Thu 20 Dec 07
[quote][bold]alan page[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Cat[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Dan[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]alan page[/bold] wrote: Bagpipers of Oxford unite!! Form a group and play in Cornmarket Street!! Give the Bourgeois something to moan about!![/quote] BINGO! Can I claim the Alan Page 'Bourgeoise Bingo' spotting prize please? [/quote] Dan, Loving your work I'm playing 'Bourgeoise Bingo' too!! Mr Page, you are oh so boring and clearly not taking your medication your posts have helped me learn to sleep with my eyes open! Dan, 1-0 to you on the 'Bourgeoise Bingo' but you now have a fellow contestant![/quote] Being considered boring by some twin set and pearls, green wellied harridan is as good as it gets!! Keep it coming, I am loving every minute of it. [/quote] You called me a chav earlier make your mind up you nutter!
alan page wrote:
Cat wrote: Dan wrote: alan page wrote: Bagpipers of Oxford unite!! Form a group and play in Cornmarket Street!! Give the Bourgeois something to moan about!!
BINGO! Can I claim the Alan Page 'Bourgeoise Bingo' spotting prize please?
Dan, Loving your work I'm playing 'Bourgeoise Bingo' too!! Mr Page, you are oh so boring and clearly not taking your medication your posts have helped me learn to sleep with my eyes open! Dan, 1-0 to you on the 'Bourgeoise Bingo' but you now have a fellow contestant!
Being considered boring by some twin set and pearls, green wellied harridan is as good as it gets!! Keep it coming, I am loving every minute of it.
You called me a chav earlier make your mind up you nutter!
Posted by: Boss, Oxford on 8:08am Thu 20 Dec 07
Clearly the piper is a ****. Get rid of him already!
Clearly the piper is a ****. Get rid of him already!
Posted by: Arfur Jock, Oxford on 9:52am Thu 20 Dec 07
[quote][bold]alan page[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]suspicious[/bold] wrote:
Mr Ison, are you actually Alan Page using a pseudonym?[/quote] No, he believes Hitler was a great man and I don't.
He opposes cruelty to animals wheras I prefer stringing badgers up by the bo---x, especially in Spring.
So,no, we are not the same person. I don't know who would be the most relieved.[/quote] I don't think they are the same person but they are certainly a pair of mass debaters.
alan page wrote:
suspicious wrote:
Mr Ison, are you actually Alan Page using a pseudonym?
No, he believes Hitler was a great man and I don't.
He opposes cruelty to animals wheras I prefer stringing badgers up by the bo---x, especially in Spring.
So,no, we are not the same person. I don't know who would be the most relieved.
I don't think they are the same person but they are certainly a pair of mass debaters.
Posted by: tarquin, oxford on 11:02am Thu 20 Dec 07
I've got the horrible feeling that as a taxpayer I am helping to subsidise Pravda Page's lifestyle, be it NHS medication bills, council housing or law enforcement. Do you claim benefits, Al?
I've got the horrible feeling that as a taxpayer I am helping to subsidise Pravda Page's lifestyle, be it NHS medication bills, council housing or law enforcement. Do you claim benefits, Al?
Posted by: alan page on 11:41am Thu 20 Dec 07
[quote][bold]tarquin[/bold] wrote:
I've got the horrible feeling that as a taxpayer I am helping to subsidise Pravda Page's lifestyle, be it NHS medication bills, council housing or law enforcement. Do you claim benefits, Al? [/quote] No, I am gainfully employed.
You don't subsidise me in any respect whatsoever.
That must be a shock to your system musn't it? Suggest you go back to the Campsfield lot and moan about them.
It is also why I cannot be Mr Ison. I don't have computer access at work!!
tarquin wrote:
I've got the horrible feeling that as a taxpayer I am helping to subsidise Pravda Page's lifestyle, be it NHS medication bills, council housing or law enforcement. Do you claim benefits, Al?
No, I am gainfully employed.
You don't subsidise me in any respect whatsoever.
That must be a shock to your system musn't it? Suggest you go back to the Campsfield lot and moan about them.
It is also why I cannot be Mr Ison. I don't have computer access at work!!
Posted by: alan page on 11:45am Thu 20 Dec 07
I have a horrible feeling that I am through my work subsidising Tarquin and co's various drug habits.
I have a horrible feeling that I am through my work subsidising Tarquin and co's various drug habits.
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 2:22pm Thu 20 Dec 07
Mr Page clearly is slightly addled.
How else can one explain his mixing my name up with the opinions of Arnold whatshisname the clown of California.
Mr Page clearly is slightly addled.
How else can one explain his mixing my name up with the opinions of Arnold whatshisname the clown of California.
Posted by: tarquin the druggie wuggie, oxford-upon-syringe on 2:51pm Thu 20 Dec 07
Alan, I'm cold and shivering... please lend me £20 so I can see my dealer who is outside Campsfield House with his criminal bourgeois colleagues!
Alan, I'm cold and shivering... please lend me £20 so I can see my dealer who is outside Campsfield House with his criminal bourgeois colleagues!
Posted by: Alan Page on 4:02pm Thu 20 Dec 07
[quote][bold]tarquin the druggie wuggie[/bold] wrote:
Alan, I\'m cold and shivering... please lend me £20 so I can see my dealer who is outside Campsfield House with his criminal bourgeois colleagues![/quote] Tarquin,
I would be the excitement of winding everyone up on here has made me shat my adult sized nappy and I need to go and empty it....
I have serious toilet issues...
tarquin the druggie wuggie wrote:
Alan, I\'m cold and shivering... please lend me £20 so I can see my dealer who is outside Campsfield House with his criminal bourgeois colleagues!
Tarquin,
I would be the excitement of winding everyone up on here has made me shat my adult sized nappy and I need to go and empty it....
I have serious toilet issues...
Posted by: alan page on 4:08pm Thu 20 Dec 07
Mother help me!!!
The voices are getting to me again....
Mother help me!!!
The voices are getting to me again....
Posted by: Emma, Oxford on 4:18pm Thu 20 Dec 07
Get him OUT! It's annoying when youa re trying to shop!!!!
Get him OUT! It's annoying when youa re trying to shop!!!!
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 5:36pm Thu 20 Dec 07
Would it be better if there were more bagpipers?
Dueling bagpipes?
Would it be better if there were more bagpipers?
Dueling bagpipes?
Posted by: Mr Ison, England on 5:57pm Thu 20 Dec 07
What's to stop me from employing a Piper to play the Oxford Cornmarket as a Busker?
What's to stop me from employing a Piper to play the Oxford Cornmarket as a Busker?
Posted by: alan page on 7:01pm Thu 20 Dec 07
I've wet my pants my mummy (who I stil live with) still cuts up my dinner and I have secret crush on bagpipe man.
I do work though I have a paperound I used to work in an office doing photocopying but everyone thought I was a cnut so I thought I would better being away from the bourgeoise as I smell of wee and pee my pants everytime I walk pass the bagpiper.
Oh bagpiper with your fine locks will you be mine I'm so lonely all I have is the Oxford Mail Website and mother to keep me company...
I've wet my pants my mummy (who I stil live with) still cuts up my dinner and I have secret crush on bagpipe man.
I do work though I have a paperound I used to work in an office doing photocopying but everyone thought I was a cnut so I thought I would better being away from the bourgeoise as I smell of wee and pee my pants everytime I walk pass the bagpiper.
Oh bagpiper with your fine locks will you be mine I'm so lonely all I have is the Oxford Mail Website and mother to keep me company...
Posted by: Mark, Chipping Norton on 10:43pm Thu 20 Dec 07
I've heard him and I think he's great - really exciting stuff. I can't understand what the complaints are about. If you live / work in a city, then you must be tolerating a lot worse than this, 24/7. This is probably just the usual English, Daily Mail-reading, hate everything vaguely different, brigade. Leave him alone, for goodness' sake, and get a life. I don't live in Oxford, mind - and the whingers on hear aren't a good advertisment for the place.
I've heard him and I think he's great - really exciting stuff. I can't understand what the complaints are about. If you live / work in a city, then you must be tolerating a lot worse than this, 24/7. This is probably just the usual English, Daily Mail-reading, hate everything vaguely different, brigade. Leave him alone, for goodness' sake, and get a life. I don't live in Oxford, mind - and the whingers on hear aren't a good advertisment for the place.
Posted by: alan page on 12:16am Fri 21 Dec 07
Dear oh dear oh dear!!
What a load of jolly japes!!!
Please don't stop, it is hilarious.
I have never felt so honoured in all my life.
All these imitators?!! I am so flattered.
Let me guess druggies and bunnyhuggers!!
I do apologize to everybody else for the fact that every thread on here seems to turn into the Alan Page show,but some people just can't handle non conformism.
Dear oh dear oh dear!!
What a load of jolly japes!!!
Please don't stop, it is hilarious.
I have never felt so honoured in all my life.
All these imitators?!! I am so flattered.
Let me guess druggies and bunnyhuggers!!
I do apologize to everybody else for the fact that every thread on here seems to turn into the Alan Page show,but some people just can't handle non conformism.
Posted by: alan page on 12:51am Fri 21 Dec 07
jolly japes I've shat my adult sized nappy again - mother help me!!
Druggies and bunnyhuggers are trying to defeat the voices in my head - mother I'm scared...
I don't even know what non conformism is are they bourgeoise??
In fact I must admit this Alan Page show is actually a pile of **** I am so out of my mind I have no idea what I'm talking about my incontinence is really getting to me.
Do they make tena-lady for men?
Mother I need help your my only friend...
jolly japes I've shat my adult sized nappy again - mother help me!!
Druggies and bunnyhuggers are trying to defeat the voices in my head - mother I'm scared...
I don't even know what non conformism is are they bourgeoise??
In fact I must admit this Alan Page show is actually a pile of **** I am so out of my mind I have no idea what I'm talking about my incontinence is really getting to me.
Do they make tena-lady for men?
Mother I need help your my only friend...
Posted by: Broken Drums, Oxon on 6:29am Fri 21 Dec 07
Imagine a warm summers day. In a library, tables are piled high with books and notes as students from every year frown down on them – many of them preparing for their final examinations. The air is thick with tension and heat: the room is stuffy and concentration is confounded by dull headaches. Yet the windows of the room remain tightly shut – an attempt to quiet the repetitive sounds of a bag-piping busker. Nevertheless, the students cannot help but be constantly aware of his presence: his sounds infiltrate the library, the IT room and even bedrooms in the depths of college, far removed from Cornmarket Street. This situation will be familiar to all who have spent a summer in Jesus College. At this particular time of year, stress levels are understandably running high, all libraries in the centre of town become crowded, and even more students are agitated by the persistent buskers. This continues even in winter, when a quiet half hour in the library is appreciated simply because of its rarity.
Jesus College (and the others that are affected) is not only a place of study for students, it is our home. This means that we are even more badly affected by the noise of buskers than employees working in the centre of town – we are exposed to the disturbance for as long as it continues. In the case of the newly established saxophonist on Cornmarket Street, this can be until 9 or 10 pm. Even more serious problems will arise if this time becomes later. In my opinion, if residents outside of the town centre were being disturbed by the level of noise that we are, they would complain and their right to peace and quiet would be recognised. It should be no different for the students and the staff living in college.
The solution to these problems is clear: limitations must be placed on the location, number, volume and quality of buskers in the centre of town.
Imagine a warm summers day. In a library, tables are piled high with books and notes as students from every year frown down on them – many of them preparing for their final examinations. The air is thick with tension and heat: the room is stuffy and concentration is confounded by dull headaches. Yet the windows of the room remain tightly shut – an attempt to quiet the repetitive sounds of a bag-piping busker. Nevertheless, the students cannot help but be constantly aware of his presence: his sounds infiltrate the library, the IT room and even bedrooms in the depths of college, far removed from Cornmarket Street. This situation will be familiar to all who have spent a summer in Jesus College. At this particular time of year, stress levels are understandably running high, all libraries in the centre of town become crowded, and even more students are agitated by the persistent buskers. This continues even in winter, when a quiet half hour in the library is appreciated simply because of its rarity.
Jesus College (and the others that are affected) is not only a place of study for students, it is our home. This means that we are even more badly affected by the noise of buskers than employees working in the centre of town – we are exposed to the disturbance for as long as it continues. In the case of the newly established saxophonist on Cornmarket Street, this can be until 9 or 10 pm. Even more serious problems will arise if this time becomes later. In my opinion, if residents outside of the town centre were being disturbed by the level of noise that we are, they would complain and their right to peace and quiet would be recognised. It should be no different for the students and the staff living in college.
The solution to these problems is clear: limitations must be placed on the location, number, volume and quality of buskers in the centre of town.
Posted by: alan page on 12:00pm Fri 21 Dec 07
[quote][bold]Mark[/bold] wrote:
I've heard him and I think he's great - really exciting stuff. I can't understand what the complaints are about. If you live / work in a city, then you must be tolerating a lot worse than this, 24/7. This is probably just the usual English, Daily Mail-reading, hate everything vaguely different, brigade. Leave him alone, for goodness' sake, and get a life. I don't live in Oxford, mind - and the whingers on hear aren't a good advertisment for the place.[/quote] Totally agree with you.
William Hazlitt said that if you want to believe that Oxford is a place of learning then look at the architecture, the grandiosity of the buildings, the majesty of the courts etc. but just don't talk to the inhabitants or students because this fantasy image will forever be ruined.
There was a really good bookshop in St Aldates (now closed) which offered a resort from the general banality and mindlessness of the place.
I was in there once and heard one student say to another they didn't even know where Iraq was.
These are our "elite"? No don't think so, somehow.
The trouble is the bullshit surrounding the place discourages estate kids who take the posturings of these empty vessels seriously.
The only thing they know is how to distinguish various kinds of narcotic.
Anything vaguely intellectual is lost on them. I bet they haven't even heard of William Hazlitt.
"Oxford" is all hype. Small minded bourgeois illiteracy is the governing mentality.
Educate yourselves people. You don't need these cretins!!
Mark wrote:
I've heard him and I think he's great - really exciting stuff. I can't understand what the complaints are about. If you live / work in a city, then you must be tolerating a lot worse than this, 24/7. This is probably just the usual English, Daily Mail-reading, hate everything vaguely different, brigade. Leave him alone, for goodness' sake, and get a life. I don't live in Oxford, mind - and the whingers on hear aren't a good advertisment for the place.
Totally agree with you.
William Hazlitt said that if you want to believe that Oxford is a place of learning then look at the architecture, the grandiosity of the buildings, the majesty of the courts etc. but just don't talk to the inhabitants or students because this fantasy image will forever be ruined.
There was a really good bookshop in St Aldates (now closed) which offered a resort from the general banality and mindlessness of the place.
I was in there once and heard one student say to another they didn't even know where Iraq was.
These are our "elite"? No don't think so, somehow.
The trouble is the bullshit surrounding the place discourages estate kids who take the posturings of these empty vessels seriously.
The only thing they know is how to distinguish various kinds of narcotic.
Anything vaguely intellectual is lost on them. I bet they haven't even heard of William Hazlitt.
"Oxford" is all hype. Small minded bourgeois illiteracy is the governing mentality.
Educate yourselves people. You don't need these cretins!!
Posted by: alan page on 12:04pm Fri 21 Dec 07
[quote][bold]Broken Drums[/bold] wrote:
Imagine a warm summers day. In a library, tables are piled high with books and notes as students from every year frown down on them – many of them preparing for their final examinations. The air is thick with tension and heat: the room is stuffy and concentration is confounded by dull headaches. Yet the windows of the room remain tightly shut – an attempt to quiet the repetitive sounds of a bag-piping busker. Nevertheless, the students cannot help but be constantly aware of his presence: his sounds infiltrate the library, the IT room and even bedrooms in the depths of college, far removed from Cornmarket Street. This situation will be familiar to all who have spent a summer in Jesus College. At this particular time of year, stress levels are understandably running high, all libraries in the centre of town become crowded, and even more students are agitated by the persistent buskers. This continues even in winter, when a quiet half hour in the library is appreciated simply because of its rarity. Jesus College (and the others that are affected) is not only a place of study for students, it is our home. This means that we are even more badly affected by the noise of buskers than employees working in the centre of town – we are exposed to the disturbance for as long as it continues. In the case of the newly established saxophonist on Cornmarket Street, this can be until 9 or 10 pm. Even more serious problems will arise if this time becomes later. In my opinion, if residents outside of the town centre were being disturbed by the level of noise that we are, they would complain and their right to peace and quiet would be recognised. It should be no different for the students and the staff living in college. The solution to these problems is clear: limitations must be placed on the location, number, volume and quality of buskers in the centre of town.[/quote] Ok, fine.
So why is so much excrement being aimed at THIS ONE busker?
Make it a general point and there is no argument.
The launch of a hate campaign against this one guy is ludicrous.
I have the same problems in pubs, perhaps I should get people banned from talking in pubs as well?
Broken Drums wrote:
Imagine a warm summers day. In a library, tables are piled high with books and notes as students from every year frown down on them – many of them preparing for their final examinations. The air is thick with tension and heat: the room is stuffy and concentration is confounded by dull headaches. Yet the windows of the room remain tightly shut – an attempt to quiet the repetitive sounds of a bag-piping busker. Nevertheless, the students cannot help but be constantly aware of his presence: his sounds infiltrate the library, the IT room and even bedrooms in the depths of college, far removed from Cornmarket Street. This situation will be familiar to all who have spent a summer in Jesus College. At this particular time of year, stress levels are understandably running high, all libraries in the centre of town become crowded, and even more students are agitated by the persistent buskers. This continues even in winter, when a quiet half hour in the library is appreciated simply because of its rarity. Jesus College (and the others that are affected) is not only a place of study for students, it is our home. This means that we are even more badly affected by the noise of buskers than employees working in the centre of town – we are exposed to the disturbance for as long as it continues. In the case of the newly established saxophonist on Cornmarket Street, this can be until 9 or 10 pm. Even more serious problems will arise if this time becomes later. In my opinion, if residents outside of the town centre were being disturbed by the level of noise that we are, they would complain and their right to peace and quiet would be recognised. It should be no different for the students and the staff living in college. The solution to these problems is clear: limitations must be placed on the location, number, volume and quality of buskers in the centre of town.
Ok, fine.
So why is so much excrement being aimed at THIS ONE busker?
Make it a general point and there is no argument.
The launch of a hate campaign against this one gu
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